[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

you need to do more research and look at figures beyond just a tiny period in time that suit your narrow agenda. try to be less reactionary and dont take this personal or getting over sensitive. but youre trying to excuse what is in effect mass manslaughter on an horrific scale

ok so bad nurses who allow old people to die of thirst on wards are all excused because theyre not being paid a fortune? most horrors happened under labour when the nhs had record levels of investment, wages rises , staff increases and scientific developments. yet their performance fell and we had endless horrific scandals.

The fact their pay has stagnated somewhat in the past few years is reflected in the disastrous nursing performances over the years where so many thousands of innocents died thanks to their ruthless incompetence.

It's very recent very relevant information, and I'll ask you again to stop twisting what I say please.
Try to focus on what is happening now, this isn't a retrospective is it? What were these horrors... I see no evidence of that other than a very skewed overview.
Pay has nothing to do with performance I'm sorry but that's a nonsense.

Look at the link I provided there are many, many articles and academic reports that provide you with as much information as you like on all aspects of nursing..
Of course there are failings that's unfortunate but it isn't endemic, my take is that there is a sinister undercurrent that is hell bent on damaging public confidence in the NHS in the hope that it will ease the transition from public to private sector... I don't think anyone has grasped what that would actually mean if it happened.