[Achilles]

I think it was really interesting especially considering all the creepy Chris discussion. Ashleigh has NEVER said Chris is creepy, never felt uncomfortable around him and he is her closest friend in the house. Ashleigh said she thought Winston was creepy at the start with all his sexual comments.
Nobody ever discusses whether the guy talking about sex, birds and shagging is creepy though, because of the way he looks.
Instead they talk about how Chris, the guy who LOOKS creepy, but doesn't talk about sex, birds and shagging all the time and actually gets offended by it a little at times.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by MelihV

BB is sexist and they put up all males for eviction and all females were safe.. Like what the ****

Yeah, cos, like, it's not like the women are safe from eviction the rest of the time when they're up against a bloke; plenty of people are far more forgiving of what men say/day than they are women, so much so that when Jason (Victor's friend in BB5 I think) launched himself at vanessa and kissed her, SHE was accused of being a pr*** teaser by a WOMAN in the eviction crowd.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveChanteuse

Are some people really saying the show is sexist against men? Nope, sorry. Boys have it waaaaaaaaay easier.

completely right.

[Alf]

What is this rubbish?

The Winsmeister is coming to take the crown, you better get used to it.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre on a wind up right? have you heard the filth from helen, toya, danielle, ashleigh, bianca and pauline? absolute vile lewd abusive poison throughout

Oh please, most of those you mention are out now so are irrelevant, and I'm pretty sure for it to be sexist it would have to be aimed at a SPECIFIC group but they've all be having a go at each other, in fact,it's so prevalent that it's what this year's BB has become known for.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Im glad she called him out on his comments as that BB task was clearly meant to make Winston look like a saint.

Yeah, she really told him.......................scary stuff (NOT)

Never in the field of such conflict has so much crap been written by so few!!!

[joeysteele]

I think she was right as to Winston in his early weeks but the time she chose to say it was inappropriate.
It certainly doesn't apply to him now.

It was also at least and at last, good to see her say something negative to someone to their face for a change rather than behind their back.

Winston has I think anyway, really moved himself up the pecking order now too these last few weeks.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I think it was really interesting especially considering all the creepy Chris discussion. Ashleigh has NEVER said Chris is creepy, never felt uncomfortable around him and he is her closest friend in the house. Ashleigh said she thought Winston was creepy at the start with all his sexual comments.
Nobody ever discusses whether the guy talking about sex, birds and shagging is creepy though, because of the way he looks.
Instead they talk about how Chris, the guy who LOOKS creepy, but doesn't talk about sex, birds and shagging all the time and actually gets offended by it a little at times.

Its what blokes do at that age, nothing wrong with it, he never overstepped the mark with anyone

And if Miss Prissy Pants dont like it, she knows where the door is!

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think she was right as to Winston in his early weeks but the time she chose to say it was inappropriate.
It certainly doesn't apply to him now.

It was also at least and at last, good to see her say something negative to someone to their face for a change rather than behind their back.

Winston has I think anyway, really moved himself up the pecking order now too these last few weeks.

I dont think anyone, apart from Chris and Christopher, listen to anything she says
She's a pretty irrelevant character most of the time, apart from when they let her in to a conversation and then its only cause the numbers are dwindling in there
BB Producers have made her relevant to the public at times with POwer/Tasks but I think the HM's just see her like a child, cause thats how she behaves

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I think it was really interesting especially considering all the creepy Chris discussion. Ashleigh has NEVER said Chris is creepy, never felt uncomfortable around him and he is her closest friend in the house. Ashleigh said she thought Winston was creepy at the start with all his sexual comments.
Nobody ever discusses whether the guy talking about sex, birds and shagging is creepy though, because of the way he looks.
Instead they talk about how Chris, the guy who LOOKS creepy, but doesn't talk about sex, birds and shagging all the time and actually gets offended by it a little at times.

lol irony you bit my head off before for saying that about marlon, ash and steven! i do think the "creepy chris" thing was well overblown though.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Its what blokes do at that age, nothing wrong with it, he never overstepped the mark with anyone

And if Miss Prissy Pants dont like it, she knows where the door is!

Is there anything wrong with Ashleigh and Chris friendship in your enlightened opinion?

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Its what blokes do at that age, nothing wrong with it, he never overstepped the mark with anyone

And if Miss Prissy Pants dont like it, she knows where the door is!

So, it's ok cos blokes do it?. fgs. and you insult her because she doesn't agree with you that it's ok cos it's what blokes do??. Omg,stop the world I want to get off.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Lstan

lol irony you bit my head off before for saying that about marlon, ash and steven! i do think the "creepy chris" thing was well overblown though.

I'm not saying it though. I'm talking about what Winston, Chris and Ashleigh have said. My opinion is that there is nothing wrong with mint banter about girls and sex
My personal opinions have nothing to do with what their opinions are.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I think it was really interesting especially considering all the creepy Chris discussion. Ashleigh has NEVER said Chris is creepy, never felt uncomfortable around him and he is her closest friend in the house. Ashleigh said she thought Winston was creepy at the start with all his sexual comments.
Nobody ever discusses whether the guy talking about sex, birds and shagging is creepy though, because of the way he looks.
Instead they talk about how Chris, the guy who LOOKS creepy, but doesn't talk about sex, birds and shagging all the time and actually gets offended by it a little at times.

i'm confused do you agree or not agree with the last bit you put there or not?

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I think it was really interesting especially considering all the creepy Chris discussion. Ashleigh has NEVER said Chris is creepy, never felt uncomfortable around him and he is her closest friend in the house. Ashleigh said she thought Winston was creepy at the start with all his sexual comments.
Nobody ever discusses whether the guy talking about sex, birds and shagging is creepy though, because of the way he looks.
Instead they talk about how Chris, the guy who LOOKS creepy, but doesn't talk about sex, birds and shagging all the time and actually gets offended by it a little at times.

Chris is only looking creepy cause he is warning other guys off a young girl when they are not even after her and he is losing sight of the end goal

He now thinks the end goal is getting into Miss Prissy's knickers!

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Chris is only looking creepy cause he is warning other guys off a young girl when they are not even after her and he is losing sight of the end goal

He now thinks the end goal is getting into Miss Prissy's knickers!

Why is that creepy? Surely it would be creepy if he sat with Pav saying "go on, go cop a feel of those titties". Danielle and ex housemates said to be wary of Pav. Crowd booed Pav. Chris was looking out for his friend. He is not wrong for doing so. The crowd and ex housemates are to blame, not Chris and not Pav.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Speedster

So, it's ok cos blokes do it?. fgs. and you insult her because she doesn't agree with you that it's ok cos it's what blokes do??. Omg,stop the world I want to get off.

That was not insulting her, if she doesnt like it she can do one

thats not insulting her, Im just saying that if she doesnt like people behaving like young men, then she should stay home and never go out

She has been with her b/f a long time so Im sure she knows where everything goes and has been around the block a few times

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Why is that creepy? Surely it would be creepy if he sat with Pav saying "go on, go cop a feel of those titties". Danielle and ex housemates said to be wary of Pav. Crowd booed Pav. Chris was looking out for his friend. He is not wrong for doing so. The crowd and ex housemates are to blame, not Chris and not Pav.

youve got that the wrong way round I think

Guys who are blatant about sex etc are usually the ones who dont do a great deal but guys who pretend to be a girls friend whilst secretly fancying them without trying it on.......are creepy!

Id think he was okay if he asked her out and she said no (or even yes) but to pretend he doesnt fancy her and then get all possessive is seriously creep territory

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

That was not insulting her, if she doesnt like it she can do one

thats not insulting her, Im just saying that if she doesnt like people behaving like young men, then she should stay home and never go out

She has been with her b/f a long time so Im sure she knows where everything goes and has been around the block a few times

I didn't say you were insulting her, although, saying she can "do one" if she doesn't like how people are behaving kind of is insulting her. Anyway, I actually think you're insulting Every Single Woman on the planet by implying that guys are just guys and how the behave is fine, but, btw, as "girls" you must conform to some ideal which we the people will decide on at a later date then tell you what it is, then change our minds as to what that ideal is but not tell you, then slag you off for not being mind readers.

You seem to have the same belief that another poster has; namely women should follow strict rules, but men can do what they like because "that's just what guys are like". It doesn't make it ok.

[Lstan]

So i see achilles you just gonna ignore my question and just post new threads bitching on here because you cant pull an excuse out of your ass because you will look like a hypocrite (like you dont already?) kk. have a nice life lol.

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Im glad she called him out on his comments as that BB task was clearly meant to make Winston look like a saint.

That's why I love her

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Lstan

i'm confused do you agree or not agree with the last bit you put there or not?

Do I personally agree with Chris' philosophy on sex talk? Is that your question? I don't mind banter at all and don't get offended, but I wouldn't go overboard. Everything in moderation. I wasn't offended when Ash and Marlon were talking about slut buckets for example because I knew they were talking about Biannca and not 4 billion women. Biannca is a slut bucket and proud of it, she has every right to be.

[Lstan]

omg i made it pretty clear what i was asking about i will put it up one more time

"Nobody ever discusses whether the guy talking about sex, birds and shagging is creepy though, because of the way he looks.
Instead they talk about how Chris, the guy who LOOKS creepy, but doesn't talk about sex, birds and shagging all the time and actually gets offended by it a little at times."

and no i didnt ask if you were offended because why the hell would you be? seriously dont play dumb unless you really are which given your harassment of me when i joined and the fact you cant accept someone may have a different opinion to you pretty much confirmed that.

[JayBlaze]

Ashleigh being vile and nasty to the Winstmeister again.

[Lex]

I'm not a big Winston fan....But all that i've heard come from him is just lads banter...which I know is something frowned upon by the over-pc mob on here...but nevertheless ...just normal banter!...And only made a big deal of by those with a vested interest in making Winston [the winner] look bad!....I don't recall St. Ashleigh remarking that Bianca was creepy?...and nobody could deny that she was far worse than any other Hm...ever!