[bbfan1991]

Regardless of whether she wins or not I think Ashleigh will do well outside the house and she has plenty of options to consider RE what she will want to do next.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

What you surprisingly overlook is that Ashleigh was badly bullied at school! Then she goes into BB and finds herself in a position of being stuck with another one for 10 weeks. For the first few weeks she watches Helen shout and scream and bully Jale, Danielle, Matthew, Chris, Christopher etc and get multiple warnings and you wonder why she stayed in the backgroud? We hardly seen Chris or Christopher either for the first few weeks.

You seem to have expected a teenager to have marched up to a loud mouthed vile bully and tackled her! After the behaviour she seen from her with others who crossed her? So what does she do - she bitches about her with her friend - completely normal for a teenager.
So during girl power she uses her intelligence to weaken the untouchable Helen's position. She tries to get Helen's bestie, Ash, up for nomination and she is happy and excited when it works. This is the Ash who laughs at Helen's name calling and eggs her on, remember. All you can say is she was being spiteful and horrible as if Helen and Ash were the 2 loveliest people in there....

She's had storylines that showed how resilient and courageous she is when BB set her up - first when they gave Kim and Helen ammunition to slate her from the morgue - second they showed the video to Helen, Kim and Jale - third she got immunity from the public and BB unexpectedly gave others the power to take it away from her. Throughout all this, she kept her cool and her dignity and took it on the chin.
As she has done when nominated - unlike Ash and Steven who moaned and whined said they didn't deserve to be up!
She conducted herself maturely and well the week she had the power.

Also remember that Chris adores her, said she was amazing and wants to spend time with her. He said last night that he couldn't wait to meet her boyfriend because 'he is a part of Ashleigh that he doesn't know'. Chris is astute and intelligent. Do you really think he would want to spend so much time around a boring, uninteresting young girl all the time even if he did fancy her (which I think is rubbish, by the way).
If you have watched the video's you would see more of Ashleigh having fun and doing other things, which is the same for all the other HM's. The editing of the HL shows have been terrible this year.

So all in all, I really can't see why you write such venom about Ashleigh while finding excuses for Helen. But each to their own.

How do you know she was 'bullied' at school

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How do you know she was 'bullied' at school

because most people are bullied and once you bullied you hate bullies, i was bullied reason why i hate helen and most people hate helen for bullying

[jet]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Ashleigh bullied at school, BS my dear. Its a story that's been invented to provide her with reasons for acting like a twat and a bitch. Please post proof of this ridiculous claim.

She said so - it's up to you to prove that she wasn't. Unless you can show the proof, it's rather cruel to accuse someone of lying or doubt them about something like that just because you don't like them.

But I'm glad it's the only part of my post that you can find to pick on.... I'm sure you'll try hard to find something else in it to dispute, but seeing you didn't the first time around, I assume you agree with it all really and it'll just be to save face...

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How do you know she was 'bullied' at school

You have seen the amount of bullying she gets on this forum, why doubt she was bullied at school?

Poor Ashleigh

[Ellen]

Bullied at school? Yet she has sat there day after day, bitching, moaning, been nasty & spiteful about other Hm's
She comes across more of a mean girl than a victim imo

[bots]

Originally Posted by Achilles

You have seen the amount of bullying she gets on this forum, why doubt she was bullied at school?

Poor Ashleigh

Oh, come on, lets have some facts. If people are trying say her behaviour in the house has been affected by bullying, lets se some evidence. I would say there was very little chance of Ashleigh being bullied at school based on what I see of her character now, but that is purely my opinion

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Ashleigh bullied at school, BS my dear. Its a story that's been invented to provide her with reasons for acting like a twat and a bitch. Please post proof of this ridiculous claim.

why would anyone lie about being bullied? you seem to know alot about ashleigh for someone who claims to 'dislike' her, #obsessed

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Bullied at school? Yet she has sat there day after day, bitching, moaning, been nasty & spiteful about other Hm's
She comes across more of a mean girl than a victim imo

thats different to bullying
everyone bitches mainly teenagers and she is 18 so she still a teenager

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Bullied at school? Yet she has sat there day after day, bitching, moaning, been nasty & spiteful about other Hm's
She comes across more of a mean girl than a victim imo

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

We already know the answer to that one Achilles as many people hate Ashleigh for daring to be bitchy about Helen.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by LukeB

thats different to bullying
everyone bitches mainly teenagers and she is 18 so she still a teenager

If you read my post properly i questioned her been bullied at school because she has been quite nasty in the house to some Hm's.
I dont care if she is a teenager, her bitching has not just been bitching its been nasty & spiteful.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Noteworthy only for Helen's unpleasantness and for making this series one of the worst ever. What an achievement for her.

Again, it doesn't matter whether it's unpleasant or not, outside of Steven and Kimberley it's the only thing that BB15 will be remembered for. That's kind of our point.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

Did i say that? No.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

because most people are bullied and once you bullied you hate bullies, i was bullied reason why i hate helen and most people hate helen for bullying

Really? That's your answer "How do you know Ashleigh was bullied?"
"Because most people are".

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Being nasty about the bully Helen you mean?
If a kid at school gets bullied every day and is nasty about the bullies, are you the type to hate on the victim?

Ashleigh isn't a victim and Helen has not bullied her.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Again, it doesn't matter whether it's unpleasant or not, outside of Steven and Kimberley it's the only thing that BB15 will be remembered for. That's kind of our point.

steven and kimberly? who are they?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

because most people are bullied and once you bullied you hate bullies, i was bullied reason why i hate helen and most people hate helen for bullying

I tend to think she was the one that bullied others,looking at her character now Shall we claim Helen was bullied,so that accounts for her behaviour?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Did i say that? No.

they make it up as they go along to fit it in with their infatuations

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I tend to think she was the one that bullied others,looking at her character now Shall we claim Helen was bullied,so that accounts for her behaviour?

well thats utter bull****, ashleigh has never bullied anyone otherwise it would of been said by people. bitching is different to bullying.....

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Ashleigh isn't a victim and Helen has not bullied her.

Ashleigh is a victim of bullying from school. Helen has bullied people in the house. Ashleigh hates it when Helen is nasty and bullies housemates, so Ashleigh bitches about Helen. Then TEAM BULLY start hating on Ashleigh. Reason is they LOVE it when Helen is nasty to people because that's what they get off on it, just like when they were at school.
Ashleigh loves animals. People who liked kicking and hurting animals when they were young won't like that about Ashleigh either.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

well thats utter bull****, ashleigh has never bullied anyone otherwise it would of been said by people. bitching is different to bullying.....

Now you know how we feel with the ridiculous accusations

[Marsh.]

Well I'm not sitting discussing details that aren't true.

I suppose you think Steven's a successful businessman and Kimberley was pregnant too?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Now you know how we feel with the ridiculous accusations

accusations? if its about what i think it is..helen is a bully, everyone seen it, not many like her

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Ashleigh is a victim of bullying from school. Helen has bullied people in the house. Ashleigh hates it when Helen is nasty and bullies housemates, so Ashleigh bitches about Helen. Then TEAM BULLY start hating on Ashleigh. Reason is they LOVE it when Helen is nasty to people because that's what they get off on it, just like when they were at school.
Ashleigh loves animals. People who liked kicking and hurting animals when they were young won't like that about Ashleigh either.

WHO on earth is team bully,and Ashleigh has been nasty to other housemates,even her friends,not just Helenand what an utterly STUPID thing to say that people who don't like Ashleigh hurt animals!!!!! how dare you,so how do you come to terms with Helen loving her dog? that must cut to the Quick !