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Old 03-08-2014, 02:35 PM #151
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I haven't seen a single post on this forum supporting bullying ... not one

How anyone can make a connection between support of any house mate and that making them cruel to animals, is really ridiculous. Speechless.
Desperate more like,I have animals and I'm a veggie and I cant stand her,so they better analyze that
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there more then 23 that love ashleigh. have you seen the polls on here and at the top ashleigh has the move % for favourite housemate

favourite to win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so HA
You cant use that poll because many people voted to like her way back and have changed their minds. The poll does not afford us the luxury of retracting our votes and if you look at the popularity of votes, why are some of the favs not in the house any longer
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Thank god you are not a lawyer, lol. It isn't up to me to disprove you, you made the post and if your claims are to be believed IT IS UP TO YOU TO PROVE YOUR STATEMENT.

Its not cruel to accuse a known liar of an infidelity she is proven to be already aufaire with. As I said in my post, she has invented the bullying bit to gain an edge and as for commenting on the rest of your post, well TBH., I find it really boring repeating myself as do probably loads of other posters that have disagreed with you in the past because you keep repeating the same old same old.

BTW being condescending and smirking or laughing at another poster is baiting or at worst just plain rude.
Have you never heard of innocent until PROVEN GUILTY? I find your posts so way out that they amuse me, so,
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You cant use that poll because many people voted to like her way back and have changed their minds. The poll does not afford us the luxury of retracting our votes and if you look at the popularity of votes, why are some of the favs not in the house any longer
Forum popularity
Ashleigh 39%
Chris 17%
then the rest of them
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You cant use that poll because many people voted to like her way back and have changed their minds. The poll does not afford us the luxury of retracting our votes and if you look at the popularity of votes, why are some of the favs not in the house any longer
#saveashleigh was trending
and jale went....
ashleigh has loads of support

ashleigh is favourite to win i like to say

ashleigh is popular and thats a fact
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Ashleigh 39%
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then the rest of them
there so much proof that ashleigh is popular
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Desperate more like,I have animals and I'm a veggie and I cant stand her,so they better analyze that
Is it any more desperate than all the Ashleigh haters who continue to make disgusting hate threads about her?

Let's call an 18yo girl a spotty piece of trash. That's nice isn't it?

Then if someone mentions she was bullied at school, let's all just say that's BS from the spotty piece of trash. That's nice too.
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Is it any more desperate than all the Ashleigh haters who continue to make disgusting hate threads about her?

Let's call an 18yo girl a spotty piece of trash. That's nice isn't it?

Then if someone mentions she was bullied at school, let's all just say that's BS from the spotty piece of trash. That's nice too.
The Ashleigh haters are without question the most vitriolic people on any forum. Their arguments are invariably flawed as well.
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Well said.

BTW by way of an experiment I have been back as far as I could go and counted how many Ashleigh lovers there are on this site.

Out of hundreds and maybe thousands of people that actually submit to this site, I can only find 23 that have positive things to say about her. That's a hell of a lot of noise from only 23 posters and more recently the most verbal, and at times vitriolic, number only 8.

I started to count those that disliked Ashleigh and I gave up when I got to over 50, so I think we can assume that Ashleigh lovers are in the minority but are the most infatic when it comes to posting.
You spend a lot of time on someone you hate. Very odd. I hate Helen but I don't post about her a fraction of what you do about Ashleigh - but you are not on your own there.
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there no one to call a bully but helen
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people have forgotten the jealous twit tbh
Your description just gave away the fact you remember him. Aww.

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I haven't seen a single post on this forum supporting bullying ... not one

How anyone can make a connection between support of any house mate and that making them cruel to animals, is really ridiculous. Speechless.
Did I say there were posts supporting bullying or anything about cruelty to animals? No, I did not.
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OH FFS, not another Asheleigh hero worship thread. Cant you just use up the other ones first. Its blocking the site up. The sheer weight and volume of hatred against her must tell you she isn't going to win and Helen is the top girl even if she didnt have a pass. Your obsession is becoming both concerning and endearing at the same time.

Just an observation. I thought you didn't approve of bad language.
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Did I say there were posts supporting bullying or anything about cruelty to animals? No, I did not.
Take a read back at the posts you quoted and agreed with
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You spend a lot of time on someone you hate. Very odd. I hate Helen but I don't post about her a fraction of what you do about Ashleigh - but you are not on your own there.
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Is it any more desperate than all the Ashleigh haters who continue to make disgusting hate threads about her?

Let's call an 18yo girl a spotty piece of trash. That's nice isn't it?

Then if someone mentions she was bullied at school, let's all just say that's BS from the spotty piece of trash. That's nice too.
Well I suggest you confront the people who have done that,as for the bullying,is it fact or something that was thrown in to give her the sympathy vote?whichever way,I do not like her,she has shown nothing to me which warrants me fawning all over her,some of it is so sychophantic, it's worrying that people can get so attached to a non identity,may I add it is also NOT nice to be tagged almost as an animal abuser simply because we don't idolize her,I've seen some posts on here,but that takes the biscuit.
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The Ashleigh haters are without question the most vitriolic people on any forum. Their arguments are invariably flawed as well.
Examples please? and stop getting personal!
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Take a read back at the posts you quoted and agreed with
Are you referring to this?

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Ashleigh loves animals. People who liked kicking and hurting animals when they were young won't like that about Ashleigh either.
The poster didn't say anyone here would have done that, but her statement could be correct for anyone who had been cruel to animals. What's the problem?

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Examples please? and stop getting personal!
Just look at all the comments of Ashleigh hate on forums, facebook, twitter and youtube. They all the same, full of hate and venom

Why is Ashleigh nasty if she bitches about a bully being nasty to others? Is it because they don't care about the bully being nasty? It must be people who enjoyed seeing Helen being a nasty bully, so when Ashleigh bitched about Helen, they started to hate on Ashleigh because she was bitching about their hero bully

If I bullied my niece and her friends bitched about me and said nasty things about me, would you hate on me or my niece and her friends?

If I saw my niece was in a mood and I started to bait her until she lost her temper at me, would you hate on me or my niece?
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What you surprisingly overlook is that Ashleigh was badly bullied at school! Then she goes into BB and finds herself in a position of being stuck with another one for 10 weeks. For the first few weeks she watches Helen shout and scream and bully Jale, Danielle, Matthew, Chris, Christopher etc and get multiple warnings and you wonder why she stayed in the backgroud? We hardly seen Chris or Christopher either for the first few weeks.

You seem to have expected a teenager to have marched up to a loud mouthed vile bully and tackled her! After the behaviour she seen from her with others who crossed her? So what does she do - she bitches about her with her friend - completely normal for a teenager.
So during girl power she uses her intelligence to weaken the untouchable Helen's position. She tries to get Helen's bestie, Ash, up for nomination and she is happy and excited when it works. This is the Ash who laughs at Helen's name calling and eggs her on, remember. All you can say is she was being spiteful and horrible as if Helen and Ash were the 2 loveliest people in there....

She's had storylines that showed how resilient and courageous she is when BB set her up - first when they gave Kim and Helen ammunition to slate her from the morgue - second they showed the video to Helen, Kim and Jale - third she got immunity from the public and BB unexpectedly gave others the power to take it away from her. Throughout all this, she kept her cool and her dignity and took it on the chin.
As she has done when nominated - unlike Ash and Steven who moaned and whined said they didn't deserve to be up!
She conducted herself maturely and well the week she had the power.

Also remember that Chris adores her, said she was amazing and wants to spend time with her. He said last night that he couldn't wait to meet her boyfriend because 'he is a part of Ashleigh that he doesn't know'. Chris is astute and intelligent. Do you really think he would want to spend so much time around a boring, uninteresting young girl all the time even if he did fancy her (which I think is rubbish, by the way).
If you have watched the video's you would see more of Ashleigh having fun and doing other things, which is the same for all the other HM's. The editing of the HL shows have been terrible this year.

So all in all, I really can't see why you write such venom about Ashleigh while finding excuses for Helen. But each to their own.
I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.

I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.

However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.

A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.

You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.

If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.

I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.

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I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.

I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.

However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.

A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.

You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.

If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.

I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.
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I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.

I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.

However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.

A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.

You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.

If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.

I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.
Ashleigh and Ash hated each other at the start. "Victimize" Ash She made him a target because at that time he was one of the nasty housemates. Team Bully: Helen, Ash and the rest of the cool kids gang. We only see a fraction of what goes on in there. Only last night they edited out the part where Ash was talking about Jale in the garden. Upload he says "Jale was a twat, at the time". That was completely edited out for main highlights show. The producers are always on the side of the bully, that is why they push Helen and Ash gang and protect them. Just like they protected Conor and rewarded him with £50k when they realized they couldn't win. The producers are nasty and they support their own. Nasty housemates get a good edit, nice housemates get a bad edit.
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