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Originally Posted by mrflibble

So do I I don't know what's so bad about being 'closed off', but maybe that's because that's how I am. I am extremely introverted, I love being alone and I only like having a small, close group of friends. So I find the Chris/Christopher/Ashleigh group very real, honest and relatable for me.

Whereas I feel Helen's manipulative with her 'good' side, lacks self-awareness and a filter, and is just plain nasty. I don't feel that it's good that she voices every single thought that pops into her head and is completely predictable because that means she has no ability or will to change her bad traits, doesn't care if she hurts other people and never reflects on anything she does. Just because we 100% know she is a nasty, aggressive and loud person doesn't mean we should like her for it.

It's a very difficult thing to show restraint and remain polite and cordial with people you don't like and keep a level-head when things aren't going your way and when people show these qualities I consider them a strong person and someone who I would say I liked. Helen shows none of these and Chris/Christopher/Ashleigh have (to different extents). The Ashleigh crew also demonstrate a lot of intelligence and thought, unlike the Helen crew.

asleigh is also a nasty, aggresive and loud person. the difference between her and helen is, that helen will say what she thinks to your face. ashleigh however will only say what she wants to certain people eg: having a go at christopher, but with others (helen) she has to rush to the diary room and swear her head off there. helen always reflects on what she has said, and will admit it if she thinks she is wrong. ashleigh on the other hand never thinks she is wrong. i cannot see where you say that ashleigh is able to show restraint, and remain polite when things are not going her way. are we both watching the same show?, miss prissy has thrown her toys out of her pram so many times i have lost count. as for showing intelligence, i think that ashleigh is very clever at manipulating the situation. she only has christopher on her side because mark has gone. chris is with her because he 'likes' her,but would like more, and thinks that there is going to be a big friendship between him, ashleigh and her boyfriend. i don't think her boyfriend is into threesomes, so she will drop him like a stone when this series is over. christopher is week, but on the whole a decent bloke. of those three i would only have christopher in the final