[kistar]

Does being aggressive have a positive side?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

Does being aggressive have a positive side?

No, but aggressive is one side of her, not everything. She is a three dimensional person with good and bad sides to her, like everyone.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No, but aggressive is one side of her, not everything. She is a three dimensional person with good and bad sides to her, like everyone.

Her best friend likened her to a pit bull terrier , he has allegedly seen those three dimensions and the one that stands out to him is her aggression.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

Her best friend likened her to a pit bull terrier , he has allegedly seen those three dimensions and the one that stands out to him is her aggression.

Because her aggression and negative aspects were the ones relevant to the discussion/task. That's what they were talking about.

If she had no positives they wouldn't be her friends, not to mention trying to make out Helen is 100% aggressive is false.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because her aggression and negative aspects were the ones relevant to the discussion/task. That's what they were talking about.

If she had no positives they wouldn't be her friends, not to mention trying to make out Helen is 100% aggressive is false.

She is a mother so ultimately and obviously must have a heart and be able to nurture and love her son , the characteristic she chooses to show the world and the one that shines through is aggression , wow how well thought out of her. What a profound way of conducting yourself , what a superb centred place to operate from.What a shining star she truly is not.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

She is a mother so ultimately and obviously must have a heart and be able to nurture and love her son , the characteristic she chooses to show the world and the one that shines through is aggression , wow how well thought out of her. What a profound way of conducting yourself , what a superb centred place to operate from.What a shining star she truly is not.

We're going off on a tangent from the original point now so I'll end our conversation here.

All I'll say is Big Brother has chosen to show us mostly her aggressive side. Youtube videos and other moments have shown her calmer/fun sides. Just as there were sides to the "boring" housemates we never got a look at.

The housemates can show the full spectrum of themselves in the house, BB decides what we see, not the housemates. Not to mention BB is such an unnatural environment that it brings things out in people they wouldn't have in the real world. Everything is exaggerated.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

We're going off on a tangent from the original point now so I'll end our conversation here.

All I'll say is Big Brother has chosen to show us mostly her aggressive side. Youtube videos and other moments have shown her calmer/fun sides. Just as there were sides to the "boring" housemates we never got a look at.

The housemates can show the full spectrum of themselves in the house, BB decides what we see, not the housemates. Not to mention BB is such an unnatural environment that it brings things out in people they wouldn't have in the real world. Everything is exaggerated.

Okay Thankyou for your input Marsh.

[bots]

Originally Posted by kistar

She is a mother so ultimately and obviously must have a heart and be able to nurture and love her son , the characteristic she chooses to show the world and the one that shines through is aggression , wow how well thought out of her. What a profound way of conducting yourself , what a superb centred place to operate from.What a shining star she truly is not.

That's your opinion, its not shared by me or many others that are warming to Helen. Everyone can keep spouting all the same old stuff over and over which is rather tired now if they wish, but I've stopped reading most of it, I know where my votes are going

[kistar]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

That's your opinion, its not shared by me or many others that are warming to Helen. Everyone can keep spouting all the same old stuff over and over which is rather tired now if they wish, but I've stopped reading most of it, I know where my votes are going

That's fine I hope your votes are fruitful.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No, but aggressive is one side of her, not everything. She is a three dimensional person with good and bad sides to her, like everyone.

I don't know if 3 dimensions works when you are talking about someone's character , maybe multi dimensional ?there are no doubt many aspects to her the one that stands out to all of us though is her aggression and that is a choice she has made to portray herself that way .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

I don't know if 3 dimensions works when you are talking about someone's character , maybe multi dimensional ?there are no doubt many aspects to her the one that stands out to all of us though is her aggression and that is a choice she has made to portray herself that way .

Yes, but you're talking as though aggression is the only thing about her. It clearly isn't.

You can get pedantic over the wording, but the fact remains the same.

They obviously know her better than we do having lived with her for 10 weeks.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, but you're talking as though aggression is the only thing about her. It clearly isn't.

You can get pedantic over the wording, but the fact remains the same.

They obviously know her better than we do having lived with her for 10 weeks.

As adults in social groups we learn to adapt and get on , that's how we survive ,so obviously she has friends human beings are social animals.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kistar

As adults in social groups we learn to adapt and get on , that's how we survive ,so obviously she has friends human beings are social animals.

Not sure what relevance this is to the discussion. We're not discussing the psyche behind human interaction. We're talking about 3 people in BB in particular. It's not particularly highly intellectual, they simply have a friend but aren't blind to the major issue she has plaguing her.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not sure what relevance this is to the discussion. We're not discussing the psyche behind human interaction. We're talking about 3 people in BB in particular. It's not particularly highly intellectual, they simply have a friend but aren't blind to the major issue she has plaguing her.

You are saying she has friends therefore at some level she must be likeable , proving she has a positive lovely side to her , I am saying she can get by in a group by creating friendships etc etc however I am sticking to my point annoyingly enough , the aspect of her that shines through is aggression that's a conscious choice and in my opinion not in any way shape or form a choice that does her any favours , it's outdated , was no doubt useful at school but as an adult sentient being she can and should make better choices.