[jet]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yeah I mean the winner of a reality show on Channel 5 watched by 1/60 of the population is really a role model and a barometer of how bad a 'state' the country is in xx

Anyone that thinks who wins Big Brother is indicative of this countries opinions or that it sends out the wrong 'message' to people, or that it means people support bullying (when Helen wasn't even a bully) or that the winners are supposed to be role models - any of this crap - needs to turn off the TV and never switch it back on again.

Yes, while the likes of BB or Geordie shore is on to protect our teenagers. If you think young people aren't influenced by these programmes and their like you need a lesson in the sociology of the popular media.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, while the likes of BB or Geordie shore is on to protect our teenagers. If you think young people aren't influenced by these programmes and their like you need a lesson in the sociology of the popular media.

Given the ratings, not many are watching to begin with so its influence on society is minimal.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Given the ratings, not many are watching to begin with so its influence on society is minimal.

The influence on young individuals isn't minimal...and individuals mimic that behaviour with other individuals who mimic that behaviour....etc. etc.
It's not just BB, it's in programes like Geordie shore etc too. It all leads to even more of a moral decline. Drip, drip, drip.
That's why Helen is admired...society is slowly but surely accepting a 'bully culture' as the norm.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

The influence on young individuals isn't minimal...and individuals mimic that behaviour with other individuals who mimic that behaviour....etc. etc.
It's not just BB, it's in programes like Geordie shore etc too. It all leads to even more of a moral decline. Drip, drip, drip.
That's why Helen is admired...society is slowly but surely accepting a 'bully culture' as the norm.

Keep telling yourself that as the bitterness eats away at you. The rest of the world, however, will move on.

[CaudleHalbard]

Helen is a successful businesswoman, with her own salon and giving employment to a number of people.

Excellent role model...... what's not to like?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Helen is a successful businesswoman, with her own salon and giving employment to a number of people.

Excellent role model...... what's not to like?

Whilst Little Miss Derry gets paid to pose outside Dominos.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Helen is a successful businesswoman, with her own salon and giving employment to a number of people.

Excellent role model...... what's not to like?

...her personality was vile..that's what Is judged...and the public supported a vile character.
Steven is supposed to be successful in business but the public judged him on the knob he was. In the end Helens win was simply a vote against Ashleigh. She wasn't a true winner because of her pass to the final..that's a fact.l

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...her personality was vile..that's what Is judged...and the public supported a vile character.
Steven is supposed to be successful in business but the public judged him on the knob he was. In the end Helens win was simply a vote against Ashleigh. She wasn't a true winner because of her pass to the final..that's a fact.l

She was a true winner as the public gave her the most votes in a vote to win.

You may not like it but it doesn't change FACTS.

Ashleigh wasn't a very nice person in the house either, another FACT.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Helen is a successful businesswoman, with her own salon and giving employment to a number of people.

Excellent role model...... what's not to like?

Giving Bj's is not a career.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Giving Bj's is not a career.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Keep telling yourself that as the bitterness eats away at you. The rest of the world, however, will move on.

Very intelligent answer to a valid point that isn't.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Very intelligent answer to a valid point that isn't.

You'll get intelligent answers when you raise an intelligent point. Bitter whining thread is a bitter whining thread.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You'll get intelligent answers when you raise an intelligent point. Bitter whining thread is a bitter whining thread.

It's not my thread, and I did raise an intelligent point. If you are incapable of answering that point I understand.