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Old 23-08-2014, 09:09 AM #26
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Is it a "smug grin" though? I know it could look that way but it seems to me that Gary has about two facial settings and the middle ground that we'd maybe try to have in such a situation just isn't available to his facial muscles.

However, I admire your optimism that if Stephanie believes that he's an arsehole (please forgive my alteration to the non-Americanism there) then he must have done something to cause it.

I feel that her views aren't based very much other than what her friend/ticket to the final Leslie is doing most of the time. His perception, meanwhile, seems to be be based not so much on Gary himself but on his formative years of being tormented by 'rednecks'.

Yes, Gary is probably a pain to live with in many respects but there's a lot of baggage influencing Leslie's behaviour towards him.
Great post completely agree. Even though Gary can be annoying, their dislike, or "hate" (Stephanie's word) for him is completely disproportionate to what he's done in the house to annoy them. Seems based on very little.

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..I don't think she's malicious, I think she's just completely clouded by her affection for Leslie and sense of protection toward him and the people she feels have 'wronged him' and can't see beyond that to have any thought for Gary or Frenchie and how it is for them right now..although she might have been the one to say that it was her 'dream house' without them, by the others responses they all agreed anyway so it would really make them all 'malicious' I think but I don't think that's the case either...because of their initial irritations with Gary of having to repeat themselves, of him interrupting conversations and not realising he was doing it with all the various voices talking at the same time etc and just his lack of understanding all the accents in general..sadly I don't think they're going to ever see anything other than his fault and they're all becoming united in their dislike and intolerance for both him and Frenchie...
This is quite a minor point, but on the video when Stephanie says that, it sounds like a woman is saying "that's nasty" or something, so sounds like not everyone agrees with her. Also, even if they do agree with her which as you said also isn't nice, I wouldn't say that's as bad. That's more just like sheep behaviour and conformity. Stephanie coming outright and saying to a whole group of people that she's happy they've gone having made many other comments about Gary (not sure about Frenchy) is really quite bitchy and childish, and much more malicious imo.
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Great post completely agree. Even though Gary can be annoying, their dislike, or "hate" (Stephanie's word) for him is completely disproportionate to what he's done in the house to annoy them. Seems based on very little.
You can't possibly make that judgement accurately based on the highlights show alone...
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You can't possibly make that judgement accurately based on the highlights show alone...
I just did.. tehe
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You can't possibly make that judgement accurately based on the highlights show alone...
However! I will admit that if I was living with someone who hadn't learned to flush the toilet properly (as I was in my Uni flat last year) I'd probably have an intense dislike for them too!
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I just did.. tehe
no you didn't. you made the judgement. it wasn't accurate.
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no you didn't. you made the judgement. it wasn't accurate.
Tehe kk bbz xx
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However! I will admit that if I was living with someone who hadn't learned to flush the toilet properly (as I was in my Uni flat last year) I'd probably have an intense dislike for them too!
exactly. Had Leslie not moaned about that in the diary room, we wouldn't have known, obviously... there are so many things that can wind the hm's up that we don't see... dirty things... we don't know..
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no you didn't. you made the judgement. it wasn't accurate.
Actually tbf, I can judge quite accurately that Gary has done nothing to merit HATE from Stephanie. I mean for Christ's sake it's been four days.

Living in a house with so many other people, you're bound to piss each other off. It's just weird that Stephanie has such an intense hate for Gary and is all flowers for everyone else from what we've seen
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Actually tbf, I can judge quite accurately that Gary has done nothing to merit HATE from Stephanie. I mean for Christ's sake it's been four days.

Living in a house with so many other people, you're bound to piss each other off. It's just weird that Stephanie has such an intense hate for Gary and is all flowers for everyone else from what we've seen
..I think she's extremely overprotective of Leslie and sees Gary as being someone who is making him unhappy..it is odd the strength of that protectiveness for someone she's only spent a short while with...
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..I think she's extremely overprotective of Leslie and sees Gary as being someone who is making him unhappy..it is odd the strength of that protectiveness for someone she's only spent a short while with...
Yeah I see what you mean she has referred to him as "my Leslie", she definitely seems protective over him! I just think that in that case she'd show more dislike towards Frenchy than Gary? Him and Gary only had one little argument, but she appeared to say "that's what you get for being an arsehole" to Gary... Unless she was saying it to Frenchy?
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Actually tbf, I can judge quite accurately that Gary has done nothing to merit HATE from Stephanie. I mean for Christ's sake it's been four days.

Living in a house with so many other people, you're bound to piss each other off. It's just weird that Stephanie has such an intense hate for Gary and is all flowers for everyone else from what we've seen
Her pride is probably hurt too when she went to busey on launch night and said something like oh hi.. you will know my brother...spencer pratt.. and busey just looked at her like and said erm.. no! That was funny tbf.

AND I do think Hate is a word used far too often, it's laziness.. She probably doesn't really HATE him, but I can see how she could dislike him intensely!
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Her pride is probably hurt too when she went to busey on launch night and said something like oh hi.. you will know my brother...spencer pratt.. and busey just looked at her like and said erm.. no! That was funny tbf.

AND I do think Hate is a word used far too often, it's laziness.. She probably doesn't really HATE him, but I can see how she could dislike him intensely!
Hahahah that was hilarious but yeah would probably rub me up the wrong way too! Hope you're right and "hate is just laziness".
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How is Leslie her ticket to the final? I don't see that at all....
As far as I am aware, no-one on this forum are privy to Busey's medical records so please don't try and explain the potential limitations of his facial muscles... Leslie is a whole different kettle of fish.. he does clearly have issues with Gary, based on whatever, but I have to say, Busey was wrong to "correct" him about CGI, Leslie was right, Busey was wrong, but Busey would not listen to him, he kept on repeating himself, as though he is the only one ever to have worked in films in the USA.. Hes an arrogant knob. Your Arsehole is my Asshole. Im sure I will get over it.
I'm sure our respective 'brown eyes' will co-exist, as long as James Jordan and Gary don't get wind (excuse the pun!) of it and start rumours of something more going on!

I should clarify that I'm not trying to bring a medical aspect into it (although it may be there), it was purely an observation that he seems to have two expressions in the mouth region. Thank God he hasn't had Botox (not buttox!)...or maybe he has...

And I'm with you on the CGI thing!
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Haven't heard anything nasty though.
There have been a couple, she told Gary to get away from the pool and to leave her Leslie alone. She also called G an a*****e. Tbh I am disappointed because she is beautiful and I was willing to watch her. I am one of the ones who liked her brother as well (not many did ) but that was the one Rylan was in and I didnt appreciate Rylan shouting his mouth off at the pair of them. Didnt like R at all in the house and I will never understand why he won. Well ok, votes

Back to today, she is a young person and needs to find her empathy status if she is to get something really worthwhile out of life. None of us ever know what is around the corner or when we may need support and understanding.
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I'm sure our respective 'brown eyes' will co-exist, as long as James Jordan and Gary don't get wind (excuse the pun!) of it and start rumours of something more going on!

I should clarify that I'm not trying to bring a medical aspect into it (although it may be there), it was purely an observation that he seems to have two expressions in the mouth region. Thank God he hasn't had Botox (not buttox!)...or maybe he has...

And I'm with you on the CGI thing!
With the CGI thing I honestly didnt see anything wrong in that. Gary possibly wanted to get into a debate which would have been good. He is struggling to get on an even keel with many of them and a debate between the pair of them with knowledge, would have been very acceeptable. After all arent we privvy to others debating with their own agenda? I believe Leslie went far too much over the top. So dramatic, it is unbelievable.
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Yeah I see what you mean she has referred to him as "my Leslie", she definitely seems protective over him! I just think that in that case she'd show more dislike towards Frenchy than Gary? Him and Gary only had one little argument, but she appeared to say "that's what you get for being an arsehole" to Gary... Unless she was saying it to Frenchy?
She was saying it to Gary, he was chatting about it outside with Frenchie, he said it hurt his heart.
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She took being called an Alcoholic by Gary personally. It's understandable why she may not like him.
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