[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

I didn't notice that. When did it happen?
Do you see no blame in Gary at all? What about when David brought him the ice pack and he was rude and dismissive of him for example...Gary is a brilliant HM and he isn't the sole cause of the problems obviously, but he contributes to them.

Of course Gary can be to blame at times, I mentioned in my post that he can be awkward like everyone else but from what we have seen he has barely done anything wrong and certainly not to the extent of being insufferable.

I disagree with you that he was rude with the ice pack thing Jet, a little abrupt because he was in pain perhaps but he wasn't rude and certainly did not resort to insulting anyone but David did..

I was talking about the conversation with James, Lauren and Gary btw above, James looked at Gary with that nasty expression he has before Gary had even properly joined the conversation.

James may even think he is helping Gary at times (and that's only because he was told to IMO) but he said himself to Stephanie that Gary (and Frenchy) were like animals and it's better when they are letting them out of their cage, telling them when to eat and so on. That is a despicable thing to say and think.