[Sophiee]

Originally Posted by Creggle

It must be really annoying for you to back a HM at the start of a series and then have to grin and bare it all the way through knowing you were wrong about who you thought they'd be Mad respect though for staying loyal

what? I'm supporting him because I like him and I'm enjoying what entertainment he's bringing to this show which is keeping me watching. I don't think I was 'wrong' about him because I didn't have expectations?

[CaudleHalbard]

I would rather watch James than Gary, who is frankly just uncomfortable viewing.

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

..well she married him...of course she sees those qualities. It's knowing where to find the line between being helpful without being patronising and condescending. He is trying portray the image of being kind and caring but it's not genuine because he then goes and slags Gary off behind his back and making sly demeaning innuendos. The guys fake...all he cares about is his image.

I disagree. However patronizing James comes across, he is still the only one who is being helpful to Gary and spending the most time with him while the rest just avoid him. Therefore as Gary isn't the easiest person to help he probably has more reason to get exasperated while the others get off scot free for not caring enough to even try. The others slag him off, laugh at him and ignore him yet the hate is exclusively for James.

I don't think he's fake, I think he's kind hearted but with a rather unfortunate manner and a deadpan sense of humour.
Gary has an unfortunate manner too, but that's okay...

I guess James just needs to never go near him, let him risk a fall in the shower, let him struggle with his own cases like the others do, and just have a good time for himself. Then maybe he wouldn't be as hated?

[the truth]

doesnt like being wrong? surely hes had a lifetime of idiocy to get used to it

[Kizzy]

james is like an abusive carer... NOW LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!!

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Sophiee

what? I'm supporting him because I like him and I'm enjoying what entertainment he's bringing to this show which is keeping me watching. I don't think I was 'wrong' about him because I didn't have expectations?

Yeah

Okay

Spoiler:

It was a joke

[the truth]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I would rather watch James than Gary, who is frankly just uncomfortable viewing.

thats your issue not gary's

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jet

I disagree. However patronizing James comes across, he is still the only one who is being helpful to Gary and spending the most time with him while the rest just avoid him. Therefore as Gary isn't the easiest person to help he probably has more reason to get exasperated while the others get off scot free for not caring enough to even try. The others slag him off, laugh at him and ignore him yet the hate is exclusively for James.

I don't think he's fake, I think he's kind hearted but with a rather unfortunate manner and a deadpan sense of humour.
Gary has an unfortunate manner too, but that's okay...

I guess James just needs to never go near him, let him risk a fall in the shower, let him struggle with his own cases like the others do, and just have a good time for himself. Then maybe he wouldn't be as hated?

hes not helping him at all...hes just telling you and joe public hes helping him
james is speaking to the public and telling them how great james is , how kind and benevolent james is...what kind of prat praises themselves endlessly, self praise is no recommendation.....it only fools the foolish

hes has suggested hitting gary a few times, he was slagging him off fthe second he left the room, though hed just claimed he wasnt two faced...james lied about the audley conversation and even called big brother a liar for quoting back his slagging session with stephanie...he pretended to be outraged when gary joined in james' anal sex messing around with leslie, to try win the gay vote....he talked down to gary endlessly, he even insulted him a few times under his breath......he then proceeded to try and give him a moral lecture. gary took it all in his strode thanked him and left the room
james then ran how down to the ground for the 1001th time

what fake arrogant twat......the brad pitt of bellends

[jet]

Originally Posted by the truth

hes not helping him at all...hes just telling you and joe public hes helping him
james is speaking to the public and telling them how great james is , how kind and benevolent james is...what kind of prat praises themselves endlessly, self praise is no recommendation.....it only fools the foolish

hes has suggested hitting gary a few times, he was slagging him off fthe second he left the room, though hed just claimed he wasnt two faced...james lied about the audley conversation and even called big brother a liar for quoting back his slagging session with stephanie...he pretended to be outraged when gary joined in james' anal sex messing around with leslie, to try win the gay vote....he talked down to gary endlessly, he even insulted him a few times under his breath......he then proceeded to try and give him a moral lecture. gary took it all in his strode thanked him and left the room
james then ran how down to the ground for the 1001th time

what fake arrogant twat......the brad pitt of bellends

David said James was the only one who helped Gary out and admitted that he and the others avoided him. Why would he lie? He said Gary was manipulative and rude and he was the one living with him in the house. Why would he lie?

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by jet

David said James was the only one who helped Gary out and admitted that he and the others avoided him. Why would he lie? He said Gary was manipulative and rude and he was the one living with him in the house. Why would he lie?

Tbf his reason for saying he was manipulative was something to do with Gary's hearing. Sounds like bullsh*t to me.

And it's not about lying, it's about opinion. David's opinion is that when James approaches Gary and lectures him about his behaviour then talks sh*t behind his back it is helping, and that's fair enough. My opinion is that that is not helping!

[jet]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Tbf his reason for saying he was manipulative was something to do with Gary's hearing. Sounds like bullsh*t to me.

And it's not about lying, it's about opinion. David's opinion is that when James approaches Gary and lectures him about his behaviour then talks sh*t behind his back it is helping, and that's fair enough. My opinion is that that is not helping!

He wasn't talking about James lecturing him, he was talking about practical help as far as I understood it.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by jet

He wasn't talking about James lecturing him, he was talking about practical help as far as I understood it.

Oh like offering to help him in the shower etc.? Yeah I'm sure David wasn't lying that James offers help and we've seen him do it a few times. Fair enough!

[Kizzy]

big brother gave james the task of ensuring gary wasn't isolated, even though he was the one isolating him.