[Liam-]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Gary is an EQUAL hm8 and should be treat as such ,not be a burden on everyone ,where they get the patience they have all shown with him is amazing

I agree, i do believe that people are trying to molly coddle him in there, he's shown he's capable of washing up, so now maybe they'll start letting him do it and that'll be the end of the arguments.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

This case isn't really about helping Gary, so a lot of the posts are off topic. This is about Gary being deaf, and hearing his name mentioned, then James going crazy at him. We know that James talks about Gary a lot with Gary in the room. So we should concentrate of the actual argument with Gary.

Quite correct. And about the impatience and rudeness that arose.

[Josy]

I would be interested to know what a lot of people actually think about the clip linked in the op, if they think James reacted in a normal way or if he was rude and so on.

The clip focuses mainly on James rather than Gary so yeah it would be good to get some opinions on that.

There is plenty of other threads about Gary with the same discussions going on...

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Josy

I would be interested to know what a lot of people actually think about the clip linked in the op, if they think James reacted in a normal way or if he was rude and so on.

The clip focuses mainly on James rather than Gary so yeah it would be good to get some opinions on that.

There is plenty of other threads about Gary with the same discussions going on...

Bloody rude and insincere.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I agree, i do believe that people are trying to molly coddle him in there, he's shown he's capable of washing up, so now maybe they'll start letting him do it and that'll be the end of the arguments.

I odnt think they ever stopped him ,the lazy gett just didn't bother until he got nominated again ,he only washed the cup to get camera time hence the silly smirk direct to camera

[Tip]

Yep he lost his temper and was rude.

Nothing new though.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

I would be interested to know what a lot of people actually think about the clip linked in the op, if they think James reacted in a normal way or if he was rude and so on.

The clip focuses mainly on James rather than Gary so yeah it would be good to get some opinions on that.

There is plenty of other threads about Gary with the same discussions going on...

I don't think people can really say how justified his reaction was because they didn't show what Gary actually did and they probably won't any time soon, but i don't think it's any worse than he's reacted before though and i personally don't think he's ever over the top in his reactions anyway.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I don't think people can really say how justified his reaction was because they didn't show what Gary actually did and they probably won't any time soon, but i don't think it's any worse than he's reacted before though and i personally don't think he's ever over the top in his reactions anyway.

People can still say their opinion on what we have seen, that's how most threads and posts on the forum work during every BB...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I odnt think they ever stopped him ,the lazy gett just didn't bother until he got nominated again ,he only washed the cup to get camera time hence the silly smirk direct to camera

Gary doesn't need to try for camera time, he is interesting enough to watch anyway.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

People can still say their opinion on what we have seen, that's how most threads and posts on the forum work during every BB...

That came across incredibly patronising, i am very aware of how the forum works tyvm.
What you quoted was my opinion, I don't think people can get the whole gist of the way he reacted because of them not showing what Gary did to evoke it, but i said, i dont think it's any worse than anything he's done before.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I odnt think they ever stopped him ,the lazy gett just didn't bother until he got nominated again ,he only washed the cup to get camera time hence the silly smirk direct to camera

I'm not sure he smirked directly to the camera. It would have been a mirror. I think he was kind of smirking at himself in the mirror.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Gary doesn't need to try for camera time, he is interesting enough to watch anyway.

Interesting ? not for me

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

That came across incredibly patronising, i am very aware of how the forum works tyvm.
What you quoted was my opinion, I don't think people can get the whole gist of the way he reacted because of them not showing what Gary did to evoke it, but i said, i dont think it's any worse than anything he's done before.

Well it wasn't meant to be patronising but if you don't want to comment on the clip linked in the op then that's up to you but most other do and have been.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well it wasn't meant to be patronising but if you don't want to comment on the clip linked in the op then that's up to you but most other do and have been.

I did comment on the clip that was posted though.. twice as a matter of fact, there's no need to patronise people.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I don't think people can really say how justified his reaction was because they didn't show what Gary actually did and they probably won't any time soon, but i don't think it's any worse than he's reacted before though and i personally don't think he's ever over the top in his reactions anyway.

You keep saying that they didn't show what Gary did. They didn't show what Gary heard is the point here. He heard his name mentioned, and asked what it was about. We didn't see that part.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I did comment on the clip that was posted though.. twice as a matter of fact, there's no need to patronise people.

Twice you have said that now.

I'm not patronising anyone so would prefer if you stopped with the accusation.

Yeah you commented on the clip and also said you don't think people can say this or that about the clip, well they can whether you think they can or not.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

You keep saying that they didn't show what Gary did. They didn't show what Gary heard is the point here. He heard his name mentioned, and asked what it was about. We didn't see that part.

Yeah i know that, but James is saying that he did something that upset him, that's what would be needed to see in order to see how fairly or unjustly he reacted.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

I would be interested to know what a lot of people actually think about the clip linked in the op, if they think James reacted in a normal way or if he was rude and so on.

The clip focuses mainly on James rather than Gary so yeah it would be good to get some opinions on that.

There is plenty of other threads about Gary with the same discussions going on...

Well of course he was rude, anybody can see that. It seems Gary was also rude and keeps interrupting when James has asked him over and over not to.
Gary is probably really aggravating to be around and a bit of a wind up, but quite lovable, and James is hot headed, insensitive and volatile but probably means well.
It's that simple and I don't think either of them should be made out as devils from the opposite supporters. It's just their personalities.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

You keep saying that they didn't show what Gary did. They didn't show what Gary heard is the point here. He heard his name mentioned, and asked what it was about. We didn't see that part.

Good point!!

Take THAT Gary haters! (just kidding...)

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Twice you have said that now.

I'm not patronising anyone so would prefer if you stopped with the accusation.

Yeah you commented on the clip and also said you don't think people can say this or that about the clip, well they can whether you think they can or not.

Yes i did say that, because that's my opinion, i personally don't feel that people can judge what they saw without seeing the whole incident, i didn't say they shouldn't or can't.

[abhorson]

The point to me is the rudeness and ignorance from James, would anyone here want someone to talk the their Grandparents with injuries/illnesses in such a manner, no matter in which situation ?

I hope you say NO.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by abhorson

The point to me is the rudeness and ignorance from James, would anyone here want someone to talk the their Grandparents with injuries/illnesses in such a manner, no matter in which situation ?

I hope you say NO.

I don't even think illness or injuries or even age comes into, I don't think James should speak down to anyone like that and at the same time insult them and complain that they are rude when he is being rude too.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't even think illness or injuries or even age comes into, I don't think James should speak down to anyone like that and at the same time insult them and complain that they are rude when he is being rude too.

James has had more patience with Gary than anyone else in there,and a lot more than he deserves ,but still gets attacked ?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

Well of course he was rude, anybody can see that. It seems Gary was also rude and keeps interrupting when James has asked him over and over not to.
Gary is probably really aggravating to be around and a bit of a wind up, but quite lovable, and James is hot headed, insensitive and volatile but probably means well.
It's that simple and I don't think either of them should be made out as devils from the opposite supporters. It's just their personalities.

It is rude of Gary to interrupt but we are led to believe that James was talking behind Gary's back about clothes in Gary's suitcase.

Gary heard his name so interrupted the conversation.

In that sense then I don't think it was that rude to ask why he was being mentioned, at least not rude enough for James to go on one of his long winded red faced rants.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

James has had more patience with Gary than anyone else in there,and a lot more than he deserves ,but still gets attacked ?

I disagree that James has patience with Gary.