[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by delta

I think she was- it's ingrained in this country,

Being Black, Brown, Yellow, Red, White isn't a choice.


Where as changing your gender, no matter how you feel about it is . She lived as Frank and sired several kids etc , 3 wives, and milked the boxing world etc for 47 years- a hard one to make- but still a choice.


It was institutionalised racism- back handed and crass. You could argue that he didn't mean it as that but wrap it up as you want to compare someone with different colour skin who don't have the option to change it even if they could to his plight was wrong and I also have a sneaking feeling that Kellie aka Frank knew exactly what he was doing.

I notice the gay community have also latched onto that saying, along with " Well you wouldn't say that to a disabled person" Now are you born gay or do you become gay, I don't know? Are some born gay and some make a decision to go down that route?

It's like they want to gain special status for being discriminated against and are sneaking under the umbrella of groups of people, which include women, people of all different races, disabled people.

I draw a line, a distinction between someone who can make a choice as to what they become against someone who cannot. A woman is a woman and cannot change, a Black man is a Black man and likewise, same with a Yellow Man etc Same with a Disabled person. But there are a large section of the gay community where it is a choice and some of them flip back and forth.


Very quick to play the victim card.

Are you saying Kellie is part of the gay community? She may well be but this is about transphobia not homophobia.

I agree that Audley cannot choose his skin colour but Kellie can choose to be transgender (kind of) so the example doesn't add up. But I don't think she meant it in a racist way, she just used a bad example.