[smileymummy]

Originally Posted by jet

If you think James is evil you must lead a very protected life and never watch the news.

Gary, with all the experience of life that comes with being 70, and self proclaiming himself as such a spiritual being and full of love, is not being very successful at making friends and influencing people. Someone who was truly what Gary proclaims to be wouldn't inspire dislike, irritation and annoyance. They would exude a calming and joyful presence and surely make everyone feel better, not like tearing their hair out with frustration. Gary;s spirituality doesn't ring true at all.

True, but instead he stirs it up,lies and trys to look like a victim.

[Cherie]

Gary is blunt, why should he tippy toe around James fake shock that Ricci went

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Gary is blunt, why should he tippy toe around James fake shock that Ricci went

James and Ricci were buddies in the house, so a bit of sympathy / empathy might have gone down better. I don't think that Gary was deliberately winding James up in this case. He always has problems empathising with others - I wonder if it's a result of the brain injury or if he's ever been assessed for Asperger's syndrome.

Another problem is that Gary is coming from a different planet from James in terms of the entertainment industry. James works closely with people and doesn't spend a lot of time in front of cameras - most of his work is behind the scenes with the same people, so he has forged life-long friendships through his work - including Ola, so he is probably viewing the connections he's making on BB as real friendships. Gary has done more than a hundred films and the whole Hollywood business is known to be extremely superficial, and soulless, with people being dropped like hot potatoes if their last film bombed. BB is just another 'show' to Gary and he's looking to serving up a slice of whatever entertainment people are wanting, and has no interest in making friends.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

James and Ricci were buddies in the house, so a bit of sympathy / empathy might have gone down better. The problem is that Gary is coming from a different planet from James in terms of the entertainment industry. James works closely with people and doesn't spend a lot of time in front of cameras - most of his work is behind the scenes with the same people, so he has forged life-long friendships through his work - including Ola, so he is probably viewing the connections he's making on BB as real friendships. Gary has done more than a hundred films and the whole Hollywood business is known to be extremely superficial, and soulless, with people being dropped like hot potatoes if their last film bombed. BB is just another 'show' to Gary and he's looking to serving up a slice of whatever entertainment people are wanting, and has no interest in making friends.

I don't think that Gary was deliberately winding James up in this case. He always has problems empathising with others - I wonder if it's just his ego, or if he's ever been assessed for Asperger's syndrome.

I could understand it if it were at the beginning but with two days left in the series its hard to get emotional about people leaving, I think James was irked because as he said in one of the VTs Ricci was in his "ultimate final" and Gary and Audley are not. I think you are right in some ways but I doubt the British entertainment industry are any less "soulless" or cutthroat than Hollywood. James himself said apart from Anton the other boys on Strictly are bland, not a very nice comment to make about people you have worked with for years. Gary was just saying imo in his rather blunt way that Ricci left because the audience found him boring which they knew because of the earlier task. Maybe he should have patted James on the back and made the right noises, but at that moment in time he didn't want to do that. As for Aspergers, I would imagine Gary has seen a number of therapists over the years if he had Aspergers I am pretty sure it would be diagnosed by now!

[bots]

I fully expect James, Dee, George and Edele to take every opportunity to have a go at Gary over the next 24 hours.The last day isn't shown on TV so they won't do it then. This will be interspersed with the odd pop at Audley in case he could pull off a win

On the other side, I see Gary and Audley making life as uncomfortable as they can for J,D,G, and E to try and bring out the worst sides in them. It will be pure game play, the crown is in sight

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I could understand it if it were at the beginning but with two days left in the series its hard to get emotional about people leaving, I think James was irked because as he said in one of the VTs Ricci was in his "ultimate final" and Gary and Audley are not. I think you are right in some ways but I doubt the British entertainment industry are any less "soulless" or cutthroat than Hollywood. James himself said apart from Anton the other boys on Strictly are bland, not a very nice comment to make about people you have worked with for years. Gary was just saying imo in his rather blunt way that Ricci left because the audience found him boring which they knew because of the earlier task. Maybe he should have patted James on the back and made the right noises, but at that moment in time he didn't want to do that. As for Aspergers, I would imagine Gary has seen a number of therapists over the years if he had Aspergers I am pretty sure it would be diagnosed by now!

To be fair to James, the men on Strictly are not people he's worked with for years. Strictly like to keep changing the dancers to keep the choreography and show fresh, so Anton and Brendon are the only ones who have worked with James for any length of time at all. James wasn't dropped from the show - he was offered a lesser role of choreographer/show dancer this year and chose to decline that, as is his right, and as many of the other dancers do - they do have other career options.

I don't really know where Gary's problems stem from.. I went surfing after I wrote the above and found an interview from 1990 - after the accident - and he seems pretty on-the-ball to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMURD17Jeok

He came over reasonably well on Celebrity Wife Swap a couple of years ago too. Like he says, he's an old rough Texan boy.. Maybe the rest is just acting up for the cameras.

[Vanessa]

Urgh! He's such a bellend!

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

To be fair to James, the men on Strictly are not people he's worked with for years. Strictly like to keep changing the dancers to keep the choreography and show fresh, so Anton and Brendon are the only ones who have worked with James for any length of time at all. James wasn't dropped from the show - he was offered a lesser role of choreographer/show dancer this year and chose to decline that, as is his right, and as many of the other dancers do - they do have other career options.

I don't really know where Gary's problems stem from.. I went surfing after I wrote the above and found an interview from 1990 - after the accident - and he seems pretty on-the-ball to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMURD17Jeok

He came over reasonably well on Celebrity Wife Swap a couple of years ago too. Like he says, he's an old rough Texan boy.. Maybe the rest is just acting up for the cameras.

I agree with those remarks this is why the others should have respected his age and his disability and not treated him like some idiot. They were told this and told that and then put him down in their minds as some old dodger. He is far wiser than them but they would rather see him in another light. The very way Dee and James are talking about him now, shows that they think they are far above him. Idiot plonkers. They never will be. They could have learnt such a lot from him but George says he has enjoyed himself with the exception of Gary being there. James and Dee doesnt think he should be in the final etc. etc. and so forth and so it goes on and on and on. Once again idiots.

[Suze]

Maybe I shouldn't say this, but can only say what I see, and it has looked on a few occasions as if James might have a thing for Ricci. I could be wrong, but then why is he so over the top irked at Ricci wallpaper being evicted?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by smileymummy

True, but instead he stirs it up,lies and trys to look like a victim.

Gary is the tall guy with the blond hair - American, James is the pumped up little nondescript Brit. Are you mixing them up? just an honest genuine question.