[James]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

You still haven't given me any facts as to how as a country, Wales is being exploited.
If you gave me some substantial facts that backed up what you're saying, i might entertain the notion, but until then i will keep my army of rabid sheep in the pen, they can **** on the houses of parliament another day.

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh PLEEEASE let me be there to see that.

One of things that is really annoying me now about this debate in Scotland is that the word 'Westminster' is now being used as a kind of term of abuse.

It's that cynicism that is driving the yes campaign.

I think the Westminster parliament must be one of the oldest and greatest parliaments in the world - a beacon of democracy.

Yes, people are cynical about politicians but I'm sure that happens in all democracies where free-speech exists. It's because Westminster has most of the responsibility to make the big decisions and also gets most of the media publicity that it gets the cynicism directed at it.

If Scotland got a completely independent government and parliament it's politicians would get the same cynicism. Guaranteed.