[Kyle]

What excuses do you have for Yahweh's disgusting genocidal behaviour that is rampant throughout the Old Testament kirk?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

What excuses do you have for Yahweh's disgusting genocidal behaviour that is rampant throughout the Old Testament kirk?

I haven't any Kyle. You raise a very valid and complex issue. I'm not even certain that I do believe in Yahweh. I only know that I believe in Christ for reasons which I will post later, and by the fact that Christ is called The Son of God and the Biblical God being Yahweh, I submit to the link, if you like.

I'm not even sure, to be honest, that the Old and New Testaments even allude to the same God, because - as you have astutely suggested - Yahweh seems to have transformed himself from a blood thirsty egocentric deity who only cares that his people worship him in the Old Testament, into the all loving, all forgiving, humanitarian God of the New Testament.

If you refer to my post, I actually admitted this much:

"I cannot actually identify which God I believe in but I believe there is a God - some supernatural force, some entity - and I think of God as Yahweh, the Hebrew Old Testament God, largely because I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Messiah."

Too many people seem to think that if you believe in God then you cannot believe in science and vice versa, but this is totally wrong. Some of the most eminent scientists who ever lived also believed in God. The list is considerable, but include:

Copernicus, Kepler, Bacon, Galileo, Descartes and Faraday, Kelvin, Planck, Mendel, Boyle - and none more eminent than these two:

Isaac Newton -- 1642-1727 --

This genius was devoutly religious. He proposed numbers as involved in understanding God's plan for history, did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and thought that theology was very important. In his system of physics, Newton said that God was essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia, he stated, "The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being."

Albert Einstein -- 1879-1955 --

Einstein stated the: "impossibility of a non-created universe." and firmly denied atheism. He not only stated his belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." but also; ""I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details."

His very famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was that; "God does not play dice" This was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. Another famous saying of Einstein's was that; "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Not bad evidence for God coming from the most revered genius and scientist of the Modern Era.

I believe in God, but that does not mean I am a some kind of science 'Luddite' because I'm not, I have always been hugely interested in all branches of science, from Astronomy to Zoology through Physics and Chemistry.

I believe in certain principles of Evolution but not all of it because scientific advances and ever increasing new discoveries in the fossil records by archaeologists, are proving flaws in Darwin's Theories. In my opinion there is no conflict between science and Theism only that which some biased parties wish to create by misinformation and exaggeration for their own benefit.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kyle

What excuses do you have for Yahweh's disgusting genocidal behaviour that is rampant throughout the Old Testament kirk?

Now one of those stories would sure as hell spice up assembly