[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I had Salman's quote from 'Applause' with the lips pic next to them, because when he posted it it made me laugh

Hmmm so it's fine to make fun of her lips and laugh at others making fun of them but your moral compass comes into action for Dee?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Hmmm so it's fine to make fun of her lips and laugh at others making fun of them but your moral compass comes into action for Dee?

I wasn't laughing at the lips, and I also never claimed to be perfect

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I wasn't laughing at the lips, and I also never claimed to be perfect

Who in here said they're perfect? you're the one trying to look down on people for having a little bit of a joke while yourself finding Tulisa's lips funny.

Oh wait, it was the applause lyrics you found funny. Ahem...

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Who in here said they're perfect? you're the one trying to look down on people for having a little bit of a joke while yourself finding Tulisa's lips funny.

Oh wait, it was the applause lyrics you found funny. Ahem...

I didn't say anybody did so you can quit twisting my words whilst you're ahead, and I've never claimed to be looking down on anybody else either. All I've done is question if the constant insults towards somebody of a bigger size is necessary, but please continue remembering what you can of the things I've done with my signature.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I didn't say anybody did so you can quit twisting my words whilst you're ahead, and I've never claimed to be looking down on anybody else either. All I've done is question if the constant insults towards somebody of a bigger size is necessary, but please continue remembering what you can of the things I've done with my signature.

You don't need to claim to be looking down on people for it to come across that way.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

You don't need to claim to be looking down on people for it to come across that way.

Well then that's completely down to your own interpretation, not many things can come off well via a piece of text but I've never been one to believe that I'm above anybody else.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I've never been one to believe that I'm above anybody else.

Are you very short?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

You don't need to claim to be looking down on people for it to come across that way.

..I don't think anyone is 'looking down' on anyone...I doubt there is anyone who isn't a 'hypocrite' to some extent or has never been...and especially with something like BB because we all make allowances for our favourite housemates and are much more critical to the ones we like less..but with the weight thing specifically, it's been similar with many housemates..Becky Hannon for instance..?..there were many cruel threads/posts etc which referred to her weight in an extremely derogatory way which wasn't necessary at all and it was commented on many times on the forum...housemates are there to be 'judged' I know and there is generally lots to judge on their characters without insulting their appearance...and obviously the same with White Dee...she isn't a very pleasant person in my opinion or wasn't in the house, beyond that I don't really have much interest in her life other then to be intrigued about the movie she's making...but I think it's also fair to say that there are many times when unnecessary derogatory comments are made about not just Dee because it happened with Kellie as well and probably other housemate's appearance when that housemate wasn't generally liked/quite unpleasant..appearance is used as an insult/expression of dislike... but if the same comments were made of a housemate who is liked though, then those comments wouldn't be the same and they would probably be commented on if others made them and have been many times....it's kind of, why would it be different..?...if in general you're someone who doesn't think personal comments are necessary to express feelings about someone..not you personally but in general...then why would it matter if it was someone that person didn't like .....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I wasn't laughing at the lips, and I also never claimed to be perfect

..no you didn't Jake because that wouldn't be possible obviously...I'm sure that at your age I wasn't nearly so wise as you and could sometimes be harsh/judge and be very fixed in my thoughts etc...that can often be the case when you're younger, can't it...but what I especially love about you..(and there are many things..)...is that you think about stuff/listen(read) other people's opinions and thoughts and reassess your own, I've seen you do that many times and it's something I greatly admire because no matter what age we are, we can always 'learn' stuff and that's how we grow...it's also an 'open mind' that not everyone has and I'm sure that I myself was quite stubborn when I was younger...


..anyway, a little bit of nostalgia/sorry...I remember when you first started to post on TiBB..I think it was when you were doing some interviews or something in the Apprentice game with Kate..?..I just thought that I couldn't believe how old you were because you were just so amazing or how new you were to the forum etc...you were pretty awesome then but for me, you've just 'grown' so much since and some of it I think is because you don't 'judge' very often or too harshly or if you ever do, you always seem to think about whether or not it was being fair, type thing and you always consider the feelings of others...so yeah, good 'old' Jake...

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..no you didn't Jake because that wouldn't be possible obviously...I'm sure that at your age I wasn't nearly so wise as you and could sometimes be harsh/judge and be very fixed in my thoughts etc...that can often be the case when you're younger, can't it...but what I especially love about you..(and there are many things..)...is that you think about stuff/listen(read) other people's opinions and thoughts and reassess your, I've seen you do that many times and it's something I greatly admire because no matter what age we are, we can always 'learn' stuff and that's how we grow...it's also an 'open mind' that not everyone has and I'm sure that I myself was quite stubborn when I was younger...


..anyway, a little bit of nostalgia/sorry...I remember when you first started to post on TiBB..I think it was when you were doing some interviews or something in the Apprentice game with Kate..?..I just thought that I couldn't believe how old you were because you were just so amazing or how new you were to the forum etc...you were pretty awesome then but for me, you've just 'grown' so much since and some of it I think is because you don't 'judge' very often or too harshly or if you ever do, you always seem to think about whether or not it was being fair, type thing and you always consider the feelings of others...so yeah, good 'old' Jake...

Well wasn't this just lovely to read, thank you Ammi