[Christmas Dynasnow]

Nigel did will this morning bearing in mind he had no sleep!

In stark contrast was the woeful display by Grant Shapps MP - Conservative Party Chairman who was on earlier and literally read from his party line crib sheet by starting every reply with "well Ed Milliband" and banging on about vote UKip and get labour in yada yada - its the same scare politics they used in Scotland and it stinks - vote for who you feel represents your views, period.

Useless pillock

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Nigel did will this morning bearing in mind he had no sleep!

In stark contrast was the woeful display by Grant Shapps MP - Conservative Party Chairman who was on earlier and literally read from his party line crib sheet by starting every reply with "well Ed Milliband" and banging on about vote UKip and get labour in yada yada - its the same scare politics they used in Scotland and it stinks - vote for who you feel represents your views, period.

Useless pillock

I used to like Grant Schapps LeatherTrumpet but in the role he has now he just comes across as plain daft as to what he is expected to say.

He just doesn't get,as neither does most of the Conservative party, that in their statements of 'vote UKIP, get Ed Miliband',the voters are not even listening because of one reason, they certainly don't want the Conservatives led by David Cameron either.

I still see a Labour 2015 election win after these by elections but I do agree, they are too surprisingly losing votes to UKIP, I'd say it is the former Lib Dem voters who went back to Labour that are now, in the main,keeping the party ahead.

The 2015 election is I feel sure going to throw up some really wild results and I do also believe UKIP will be a major factor and are here to stay at least for that election anyway.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I used to like Grant Schapps LeatherTrumpet but in the role he has now he just comes across as plain daft as to what he is expected to say.

He just doesn't get,as neither does most of the Conservative party, that in their statements of 'vote UKIP, get Ed Miliband',the voters are not even listening because of one reason, they certainly don't want the Conservatives led by David Cameron either.

I still see a Labour 2015 election win after these by elections but I do agree, they are too surprisingly losing votes to UKIP, I'd say it is the former Lib Dem voters who went back to Labour that are now, in the main,keeping the party ahead.

The 2015 election is I feel sure going to throw up some really wild results and I do also believe UKIP will be a major factor and are here to stay at least for that election anyway.

have you had time to listen to Carswell's speech last night, very interesting in terms of his future role at Ukip and its possible direction?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

have you had time to listen to Carswell's speech last night, very interesting in terms of his future role at Ukip and its possible direction?

Actually he would likely make a good leader of UKIP when Nigel Farage decides to stand down.
I liked Douglas Carswells point about him feeling he can now do what he came into politics to do.

he won, really well too, good luck to him in that.