[Kizzy]

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

"It's not a private debate between kyle and yourself is it?"

No, but until your intervention it was a serious and respectful debate without a trace of ridicule from either participant.

"You were only 1200yrs out on when the bible was written then? that's reassuring. It's becoming a piece that some cherrypick from and manipulate to suit their own agenda, the whole of the King James editions for instance."


Your pedanticism is redundant and misplaced, because I actually qualified my statement by the inclusion of the word; "about".

"The messages the real messages are lost... gone.
What we have left is a mish mash of rehashed rules and regulations that make little or no sense... or their so screamingly obvious that you don't have to be a practicing a religion to know not to do them as they are morally wrong.
And we all have a conscience don't we? Free will?"

This last really puzzles me, because you quote my post, yet nowhere in my post do I address any of the points you have commented on. Therefore, your assertions in this last emboldened section are out of context and - again - misplaced and redundant. You might as well be commenting on the mating habits of Nicaraguan dwarfs.

That's not true, you stated those who had not read the bible were spouting bollox.
Right ok, I see give or take a millennium you were right.
Not sure how my comments on the bible as I see it are out of context, the bible has come up many times in this debate.

[kirklancaster]

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That's not true, you stated those who had not read the bible were spouting bollox.

With genuine respect to you, and without wishing for anything than balanced, civil discussion as a consequence; you misquoted me and/or completely misunderstood what I said and the context in which I said it. I never said that; "those who had not read the bible were spouting bollox" .[/B] or anything which could be construed as that. What I actually said - if you check my post correctly - is;

"I've no problem here Kyle - in fact I welcome it, because if you're reading, you're informed, and don't spout irrelevant bollox like some, even if you're contesting my viewpoint."

My reference was specifically about any person who responds to a post or comments on part of a post when what they are posting has absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject matter of the post which they are responding to - hence the term; "irrelevant bollox" -- 'irrelevant' being the key word.

I used the words; "if you're reading, you're informed" because I genuinely believe that a person who reads up on the subject being discussed, is far more likely to make more valid, relevant contributions to the matter being discussed, than someone who doesn't read up on the subject being discussed - no matter if that subject be 'The Holy Bible', or 'Fly Fishing' by 'J.R. Hartley'. What's more, I never defined what type of reading or what type of books, and I never mentioned the Bible in this part of the exchange.

"Right ok, I see give or take a millennium you were right." Thank you.

"Not sure how my comments on the bible as I see it are out of context, the bible has come up many times in this debate"

You are right Kizzy, the Bible has come up many times in this debate, it's just that the points you made - though valid - were out of context in the case of this particular exchange.

Anyway, I hope we've both cleared this up and can agree to disagree because I genuinely feel that 'arguing' per se is completely futile - especially on a subject such as this, which in all probability will never be resolved. A civil exchanging of ideas, and respectful discussion and debate is always, both more enjoyable, and fruitful - in my opinion.

[Kizzy]

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

That's not true, you stated those who had not read the bible were spouting bollox.

With genuine respect to you, and without wishing for anything than balanced, civil discussion as a consequence; you misquoted me and/or completely misunderstood what I said and the context in which I said it. I never said that; "those who had not read the bible were spouting bollox" .[/B] or anything which could be construed as that. What I actually said - if you check my post correctly - is;

"I've no problem here Kyle - in fact I welcome it, because if you're reading, you're informed, and don't spout irrelevant bollox like some, even if you're contesting my viewpoint."

My reference was specifically about any person who responds to a post or comments on part of a post when what they are posting has absolutely nothing to do with the actual subject matter of the post which they are responding to - hence the term; "irrelevant bollox" -- 'irrelevant' being the key word.

I used the words; "if you're reading, you're informed" because I genuinely believe that a person who reads up on the subject being discussed, is far more likely to make more valid, relevant contributions to the matter being discussed, than someone who doesn't read up on the subject being discussed - no matter if that subject be 'The Holy Bible', or 'Fly Fishing' by 'J.R. Hartley'. What's more, I never defined what type of reading or what type of books, and I never mentioned the Bible in this part of the exchange.

"Right ok, I see give or take a millennium you were right." Thank you.

"Not sure how my comments on the bible as I see it are out of context, the bible has come up many times in this debate"

You are right Kizzy, the Bible has come up many times in this debate, it's just that the points you made - though valid - were out of context in the case of this particular exchange.

Anyway, I hope we've both cleared this up and can agree to disagree because I genuinely feel that 'arguing' per se is completely futile - especially on a subject such as this, which in all probability will never be resolved. A civil exchanging of ideas, and respectful discussion and debate is always, both more enjoyable, and fruitful - in my opinion.

You did say it, and whether you say you didn't mean anyone who had already contributed on this thread or not I will have to take your word I guess.
I wouldn't want to appear to be a pedant so yes lets draw a line.