[Udanax]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

In your opinion, just like it's my opinion that *******igh was a ghastly excuse of a person

Idk it's hard to deny that Helen's a horrible person.

[Liam-]

It's not fact though, you saw bullying, i saw someone getting riled up by people wanting her to explode, people have different ways of seeing things.

[Daniel.]

Because Chris, Christopher and Jale did so much to rile her up

[Liam-]

Chris was a sneaky creep, Christopher was annoying and the most self indulgent person of the series and Jale.. well yes, at the beginning Jale was targeted for some unknown reason.

[LukeB]

we all have to agree to disagree because this won't get us anywhere, we all have our opinions so it's pointless arguing when it's not going to get anywhere.

Both Helen and Ashleigh have both been bad as each other, they aint saints! they both said some nasty stuff! but they have shown a nice side to them!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Her being awful to everyone has nothing to do with whether the audience enjoyed watching her or not.

Her being awful has to do with the fact that Liam called his bottom 10 awful people but still champions Helen.

Originally Posted by LukeB

Winston was a nice lad

No he wasn't lmfao Winston wasn't anything at all.

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

But you're not looking at it objectively because you've made your dislike of her abundantly clear.. Everyone has different opinions and everyone has different views on things, get over it.

It's objective when you consider that by, like, Day 3 she already labeled Jale a ****ing disgusting slug despite barely knowing her and not having a proper conversation with her. And pretty much the rest of her behavior over the course of 72 days.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Chris was a sneaky creep, Christopher was annoying and the most self indulgent person of the series and Jale.. well yes, at the beginning Jale was targeted for some unknown reason.

But these traits weren't affecting Helen at all.

The Chris and Jale bashing started on the First Night.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Because Chris, Christopher and Jale did so much to rile her up

lmfaooooooo can we just look at the cognitive dissonance between Helen thinking that Ashleigh/Chris slagged her off while she listened to them, and Helen and the douchebros throwing out pedophilia accusations on Twitter because Chris took a picture with a 10 year old fan and probably made his day.

[Liam-]

Jesus, the flack you catch on here if you don't share the same opinions of people as everybody else

[LukeB]

this have gone off topic now

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

this have gone off topic now

So we are still debating Big Brother

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LukeB

we all have to agree to disagree because this won't get us anywhere, we all have our opinions so it's pointless arguing when it's not going to get anywhere.

Both Helen and Ashleigh have both been bad as each other, they aint saints! they both said some nasty stuff! but they have shown a nice side to them!

We should just discuss our favourite house mates, because that is the thread topic

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Jesus, the flack you catch on here if you don't share the same opinions of people as everybody else

It's not about sharing the same opinions as everyone else. It's a discussion forum and the Helen detractors are discussing why we think Helen's an awful person, while the Helen supporters are just going "oh well that's your opinion to each their own xx"

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

So we are still debating Big Brother

Yeah, read the title "favourite ever house mate top 20 thread"

not "discuss who you think is vile"

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

It's not about sharing the same opinions as everyone else. It's a discussion forum and the Helen detractors are discussing why we think Helen's an awful person, while the Helen supporters are just going "oh well that's your opinion to each their own xx"

Why do you get so riled up over people liking someone you don't? This was a thread to discuss our favourite housemates and you turned it into a bashing session, starting when i mentioned John James and you haven't stopped since, this forum is about having opinions and discussing it, but when you're stating your opinion as if it's fact to try and make someone else seem like a bad person for liking someone you don't, then it enters the realm of ridiculous.

[LukeB]

anyway... changing topic

Makosi was a legend

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yeah, read the title "favourite ever house mate top 20 thread"

not "discuss who you think is vile"

This is a discussion thread regarding Big Brothe ron Big Brother, I'd understand your point if we were talking about something non Big Brother but were not. This conversation stemmed from people's lists anyway, disussing other's choices is much more fun than just listing.

[Macie Lightfoot]

*quotes a post about how it's not about sharing the same opinions* "why do you get so riled up over people not having the same opinions?!"

I didn't turn it into a bashing session, your list was being judged by other people as soon as it was posted. I'm not stating my opinions as facts, I'm discussing events that happened and how that affected my opinion of who I like and dislike. I presented instances of John James being a misogynist and Helen being a sour bitch, and I don't like misogynists or sour bitches. If you like those kinds of people then that's entirely on you

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

This is a discussion thread regarding Big Brothe ron Big Brother, I'd understand your point if we were talking about something non Big Brother but were not. This conversation stemmed from people's lists anyway, disussing other's choices is much more fun than just listing.

each thread as a different topic. Why do you think josy closes threads when they go off topic.

This a thread where we discuss our favourites

end of argument. if you reply to this, then your going on my ignore list

[Daniel.]

I don't care if I'm on your ignore list AT ALL

[Macie Lightfoot]

What. A. Threat.

[Liam-]

Anyway.. It just goes to show that most threads about BB turn into a Helen Vs Ashleigh debate these days, two of the most talked about Housemates ever, whether for good or bad reasons.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I don't care if I'm on your ignore list AT ALL

Cool story bro please tell another

[LukeB]

Makosi

[Daniel.]

I will reply to whatever I ****ing want to by the way