[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Try preaching those sentiments to the wives and mothers of fallen soldiers who were killed fighting a war on our behalf - a war which these Islamic Fundamentalist devils started unjustly.

Try preaching it to the grief-stricken parents of all the tiny innocent children killed or maimed in indiscriminate car bombings in civilian areas or in the deliberate targeting of schools and hospitals by these warped terrorists bastards.

For now - thanks to our soldiers and our intelligence and security services - we can both enjoy the freedom to express any opinion we want without fear of recrimination.

For how much longer, however, may truly depend on whether we get real and abandon our 'moral' shackles, or continue to fight inhuman, immoral devils wielding bombs and guns with fluffy pink slippers.

That sounds a lot like rationalising to me.

Originally Posted by Creggle

They don't deserve human rights, though. IMO not every living breathing human should have the same 'standard' of rights, heck innocent animals are killed on a daily basis just 'because', why on Earth should a terrorist deserve rights when they are so far below every other living creature on Earth?

Because we must practice what we preach, also you can't pick or choose. Either you believe everyone deserves Human Rights or nobody does. It's a black and white issue, grey doesn't exist here.

The war in Iraq and everything that followed was done in the name of ending extremism and ending regimes like Saddam Hussein's and that ironically resulted in the rise of IS which even the Al Queda doesn't want to be associated with. It was the need for a blood price in the first place that created IS and if we're comitting human rights abuses ourselves then that just gives IS more power and arguments against the West to recruit people into their ranks.