[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Hayllelujah

That Facebook post seems like the mother couldn't give two ****s about the death. How sad.

The message does seem very self centred. About them rather than the person who died.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Lily'sWeaveAngel

That's really nice, didn't his parents react well?

His parents were ***** to put it kindly. Told him they bought shame to them and threw him out.

[armand.kay]

The most distressing thing about this is the fact the mother (from the fbook post) appears not to care at all about her dying rather this is just a blemish on the family's image that she has to cover up.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

His parents were ***** to put it kindly. Told him they bought shame to them and threw him out.

[Amy Jade]

Her parents are a disgrace. If your child opens up to you as much as to tell you something so personal you support them no matter what not turn on them and try to manipulate them into being what you think is right or better and to go as far as to remove those around the person who do offer support is heartbreaking.

They killed their child.

[GypsyGoth]

[Niall]

It's stuff like this that makes me feel sick. I don't get how people can be so depraved and marred by the festering tendrils of religion or dogma of some other sort to not help the human being in need, let alone their fucking child. Her parents should be taken to court and preferably locked up for neglect for what they did to her. Absolutely evil swines they are, and the way her fucking mother continues to misgender her after her passing only reinforces that they seemed to have learnt fucking nothing. Evil, evil people.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

5000 humans died this week on Chinas roads

Life is bleak

how many of those 5000 were made to feel like **** about themselves for their entire lives?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Beth...lehem

Her parents are a disgrace. If your child opens up to you as much as to tell you something so personal you support them no matter what not turn on them and try to manipulate them into being what you think is right or better and to go as far as to remove those around the person who do offer support is heartbreaking.

They killed their child.

Her parents were brainwashed by a cult. you can't really blame them either./ I blame the church. And if there actually is a God, he deserves 100% of the blame.

[Niall]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Her parents were brainwashed by a cult. you can't really blame them either./ I blame the church. And if there actually is a God, he deserves 100% of the blame.

You can absolutely blame them because they denied the poor girl help at every ****ing turn.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niall

You can absolutely blame them because they denied the poor girl help at every ****ing turn.

They were brainwashed into thinking they WERE getting her help and doing the right thing by the evil Godfolks.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by lostalex

They were brainwashed into thinking they WERE getting her help and doing the right thing by the evil Godfolks.

This, they sent her to therapy which they thought was the right thing to do.

[Firewire]

I'm not defending them. If you can't support your child, don't have them. If her parents supported her she'd still be alive.

[lostalex]

Youtube video

[Niall]

Originally Posted by lostalex

They were brainwashed into thinking they WERE getting her help and doing the right thing by the evil Godfolks.

Nah, I don't buy that ever. If they truly wanted to help their child they would've listened to her wishes and considered what she wanted rather than doing what they wanted. She wanted a proper medical therapist. They wanted a Christian 'therapist'.

Even after the attempt at the christian pseudo-therapy they could've listened to her and tried her methods, but they dogmatically persisted in doing what they wanted. And that's entirely selfish, and ergo their fault. They are to blame because they neglected their kid and continued to neglect her even as their actions hurt her more. It's all them. I don't care. They're evil.

[Firewire]

Leelah's mother didn't have any pictures of her on Facebook. But she has loads of her other children.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SelenaSnowmez

Leelah's mother didn't have any pictures of her on Facebook. But she has loads of her other children.

Because she was ashamed./ It's not uncommon at all for Parents of GLBT kids to blame themselves and feel like they did something wrong. that's what they are told by the church.

They are told, they tell Mothers they were too close with their sons, and they tell Fathers they didn't spend enough time with their sons. the church actually also teaches these parents that they are to blame. So the parents are also feeling shame and confusion and self-hate.

The church is such a toxic thing.

[Ammi]

..this is extraordinarily sad...no matter who or what your parents are/their beliefs etc or what relationship you have with them...more than anyone in the world, acceptance from them for who you are is the most important thing to lots of people...


..to an extent, I agree with you Alex but there are times when faiths and beliefs are questioned and tested and they had to make a decision with that faith and their love for their son and they failed and let him down dreadfully...not every parent with a faith which conflicted with his sexuality would have done that...?...I have no doubt that they loved him and felt that what they did with the counselling was the right thing and I absolutely don't think that they're murderers or anything...but they rejected the one person on this earth who was most in need of them...what kind of 'Christianity' is that....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..this is extraordinarily sad...no matter who or what your parents are/their beliefs etc or what relationship you have with them...more than anyone in the world, acceptance from them for who you are is the most important thing to lots of people...


..to an extent, I agree with you Alex but there are times when faiths and beliefs are questioned and tested and they had to make a decision with that faith and their love for their son and they failed and let him down dreadfully...not every parent with a faith which conflicted with his sexuality would have done that...?...I have no doubt that they loved him and felt that what they did with the counselling was the right thing and I absolutely don't think that they're murderers or anything...but they rejected the one person on this earth who was most in need of them...what kind of 'Christianity' is that....

okay.

[Kizzy]

I'm not surprised it happens, I experienced the bullying of a lad on a bus it was a snapshot of what they had to go through every day... it still upsets me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by lostalex

how many of those 5000 were made to feel like **** about themselves for their entire lives?

Its a decent point but the 20,000 children who will die today from hunger and or preventable disease did not even get a chance at a crap life

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

okay.

..yes I did say that Alex because in the context of what I said it was parents letting a son down and putting their prejudices and inacceptance before there love for him ..and to them, that's what he was and how they thought of him ..their son....

[Ammi]

..also, there are awful and sad things that happen every day all over the world, things that should never happen and it's impossible to take on the whole world's sadness... that doesn't mean that we can't be touched by something sad or a particular story...it just doesn't quite work like that...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..also, there are awful and sad things that happen every day all over the world, things that should never happen and it's impossible to take on the whole world's sadness... that doesn't mean that we can't be touched by something sad or a particular story...it just doesn't quite work like that...

Yes of course you are right but in the context of a discussion forum it also pays to keep a worldview

[Conzors]

The things that pain me the most is that he felt nobody loved him at the time he died./ Everyone should be loved.