[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

There's free speech and hate speech, and we don't tolerate the latter, IN LAW!

Depends which way you view it

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So she's not said it in the house? and its her opinion ,we do have a tiny amount of free speech left in the Uk

Correct, so there's no problem with people stating a negative opinion on Katie Hopkins, is there?

I wasn't aware of these comments. I find her even more repulsive than I did before now. "Time to restart the bombing campaign", really? Sorry, but "free speech" is no defense of saying things as offensive as this as far as I'm concerned. She truly is a revolting individual.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

At least Ms Hopkins only uses words, sticks and stones and all that - whilst others seek to oppress, maim and murder in order to get their views across. No contest in my opinion.

So you are totally ignorant in Law. Hate speech is a crime punishable in Law.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Depends which way you view it

I'm not sure how many ways the phrase 'time to re-start the bombing campaign' can be viewed...

[Samm]

This is not from the house or is current news about her in BB?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Correct, so there's no problem with people stating a negative opinion on Katie Hopkins, is there?

I wasn't aware of these comments. I find her even more repulsive than I did before now. "Time to restart the bombing campaign", really? Sorry, but "free speech" is no defense of saying things as offensive as this as far as I'm concerned. She truly is a revolting individual.

As an housemate Katie is there to be judged

[joeysteele]

I hate to say it but since she hasn't said it or anything greatly offensive so far while in the house this cannot be held against her as a housemate.

She would never have been invited to be a housemate by me however because this is the problem with her, she just cannot keep a hold of her own vile tongue.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I hate to say it but since she hasn't said it or anything greatly offensive so far while in the house this cannot be held against her as a housemate.

She would never have been invited to be a housemate by me however because this is the problem with her, she just cannot keep a hold of her own vile tongue.

No she's not been 1 iota offensive in the house

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

There's free speech and hate speech, and we don't tolerate the latter, IN LAW!

Are you kidding - if we didn't tolerate hate speech the likes of certain Muslim clerics and other extremists would have had their arses kicked out of Britain years ago.

[bots]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

As an housemate Katie is there to be judged

Yes, I agree, but with the celeb version its really difficult to throw out what we know about them, as that is part of the reason they are in there!

I'm not a Katie fan, but I cannot stand a 101 hate threads appearing, she hasn't broken any laws, lets see what she does in the house!

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Depends which way you view it

It's clear how you view it. Hate speech is totally acceptable for you.
How often must I remind yo? This woman said the Israelis should kill these "rodents". Need I remind you the Israelis are occupying Palestine land. They are controlling everything which enters and leaves Gaza. They are starving the Gazans bit by bit by ensuring there isn't enough food to live on. They are denying all sorts of essentials necessary to survive, medicine, building materials, and food.

Katie Hopkins thinks that does not go far enough. She wants to bomb them off the face of the earth because she is the worst kind of Zionist, a genocidist, no different than Hitler.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I hate to say it but since she hasn't said it or anything greatly offensive so far while in the house this cannot be held against her as a housemate.

She would never have been invited to be a housemate by me however because this is the problem with her, she just cannot keep a hold of her own vile tongue.

There are times when I would give a housemate the benefit of the doubt and judge them purely on the show, but her comments here are far too extreme and hateful to simply discard for me. I'm honestly horrified that some people are defending even this.

Besides, I think it's entirely fair to judge Katie in the house on both what she does on the show and what she's said beforehand. I mean, the entire reason she's in there is her controversial comments, so why is it that we should suddenly forget them when it's convenient for her fans?

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

So you are totally ignorant in Law. Hate speech is a crime punishable in Law.

No, but the law applies to all, not just those whose views you don't like. Hate speech comes from both sides - to single out Ms Hopkins is futile.

I repeat if she had broken any laws she would have been dealt with. Maybe you don't know as much about the law as you think.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

Well it is a race actually. Semites. And the funny thing is most semites aren't Jewish at all, most Jews are blow-ins from eastern Europe mostly, long before WW2 and the Holocaust.

no it is not

you are wrong

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

It's clear how you view it. Hate speech is totally acceptable for you.
How often must I remind yo? This woman said the Israelis should kill these "rodents". Need I remind you the Israelis are occupying Palestine land. They are controlling everything which enters and leaves Gaza. They are starving the Gazans bit by bit by ensuring there isn't enough food to live on. They are denying all sorts of essentials necessary to survive, medicine, building materials, and food.

Katie Hopkins thinks that does not go far enough. She wants to bomb them off the face of the earth because she is the worst kind of Zionist, a genocidist, no different than Hitler.

There are two sides to this story as we all know. Your emotional views on the subject are your views, not necessarily fact!

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

This is not from the house or is current news about her in BB?

Nah of course not, old news dug up as usual

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

There are times when I would give a housemate the benefit of the doubt and judge them purely on the show, but her comments here are far too extreme and hateful to simply discard for me. I'm honestly horrified that some people are defending even this.

Besides, I think it's entirely fair to judge Katie in the house on both what she does on the show and what she's said beforehand. I mean, the entire reason she's in there is her controversial comments, so why is it that we should suddenly forget them when it's convenient for her fans?

Thumbs up!!

I don't care about her snobbery or kitchen stove philosophy, but it's insulting and trivialising to measure those opinions with Palestine where people are being murdered by the 3rd biggest army in the world, "fighting", a bunch of youths with stones.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

There are two sides to this story as we all know. Your emotional views on the subject are your views, not necessarily fact!

Point out where I'm wrong.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

It's clear how you view it. Hate speech is totally acceptable for you.
How often must I remind yo? This woman said the Israelis should kill these "rodents". Need I remind you the Israelis are occupying Palestine land. They are controlling everything which enters and leaves Gaza. They are starving the Gazans bit by bit by ensuring there isn't enough food to live on. They are denying all sorts of essentials necessary to survive, medicine, building materials, and food.

Katie Hopkins thinks that does not go far enough. She wants to bomb them off the face of the earth because she is the worst kind of Zionist, a genocidist, no different than Hitler.

You're wrong ,hate speech is not acceptable to me, but FREE SPEECH and peoples opinions are, you have a picture of Bradley Manning on your photo and don't defend freedom of speech ?

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no it is not

you are wrong

No I'm not. Semites are the indigenous people of Palestine and its environs. Religion has nothing to do with it.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You're wrong ,hate speech is not acceptable to me, but FREE SPEECH and peoples opinions are, you have a picture of Bradley Manning on your photo and don't defend freedom of speech ?

clocked

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Nah of course not, old news dug up as usual

When she said it is an utter irrelevence. The OP never suggested she said it in the house (actually, it was quite clear that they were referring to comments made before), and their point was reasonable.

If this was a thread dedicated to discussing things she's said in the house, then sure, people would have a point in bringing up how she said it beforehand. As it stands, though, that's not the case. It's quite telling, however, that the best defenses people can muster are "Well, she said it before" and "free speech".

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You're wrong ,hate speech is not acceptable to me, but FREE SPEECH and peoples opinions are, you have a picture of Bradley Manning on your photo and don't defend freedom of speech ?

Bradley Chelsea Manning is a champion of free speech, that's why he was sent to jail, for blowing the gaff on the "colateral murder" video. By leaking it he went to jail and risked the death penalty.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Are you kidding - if we didn't tolerate hate speech the likes of certain Muslim clerics and other extremists would have had their arses kicked out of Britain years ago.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

When she said it is an utter irrelevence. The OP never suggested she said it in the house (actually, it was quite clear that they were referring to comments made before), and their point was reasonable.

If this was a thread dedicated to discussing things she's said in the house, then sure, people would have a point in bringing up how she said it beforehand. As it stands, though, that's not the case. It's quite telling, however, that the best defenses people can muster are "Well, she said it before" and "free speech".

But it is true though, Katie is at worse a bit annoying, and to be quite frank, creating loads of hate threads on her will increase her popularity and increase her chances of winning.

My take is this, if she is a boring housemate, i don't want her to win BB, that judgement will be made by her behaviour in the house. Simple.