[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..no it's not, it's not even near bullying...I think that she feels that she has to take over and be a mother of the house, but I think she needs to back off like Michelle and give space to the other housemates to sort out situations themselves but she's still well-intentioned...

No she has that Wrong.

Millions more Now Hate Her



She was bullying old Ken

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

No she has that Wrong.

Millions more Now Hate Her



She was bullying old Ken

..I'm sure that some people will hate her, Arista and that's their prerogative to do so but she didn't bully Ken, he absolutely was his own downfall by ignoring BB warnings and insisting on being an idiot...and 'old Ken' was not so old as to know exactly what he was doing...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I'm sure that some people will hate her, Arista and that's their prerogative to do so but she didn't bully Ken, he absolutely was his own downfall by ignoring BB warnings and insisting on being an idiot...and 'old Ken' was not so old as to know exactly what he was doing...

I think bullying is a stong word, but she certainly hounded him, they were all gathered on the bed discussing him when he came in to get his mac, when Cami blew up she took over, dragging up the arse watching comment from days ago, it was clear he didn't want to continue the conversation but she carried it in into the garden, when he kept his cool she totally lost hers resorting to calling the police, she is an interfering busy body, if she claims she doesn't want her kids to see her upset she should back off from other people's arguments, Cami and Chloe are women not simpering young girls they can handle themselves. As Calum said they weren't going to stop until they got him out, that doesn't sound like the were handling the situstion well at all and it was apparent to other HMs what their agenda was.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think bullying is a stong word, but she certainly hounded him, they were all gathered on the bed discussing him when he came in to get his mac, when Cami blew up she took over, dragging up the arse watching comment from days ago, it was clear he didn't want to continue the conversation but she carried it in into the garden, when he kept his cool she totally lost hers resorting to calling the police, she is an interfering busy body, if she claims she doesn't want her kids to see her upset she should back off from other people's arguments, Cami and Chloe are women not simpering young girls they can handle themselves. As Calum said they weren't going to stop until they got him out, that doesn't sound like the were handling the situstion well at all and it was apparent to other HMs what their agenda was.

..I agree with a lot of your points Cherie but maybe see it in a slightly different way..it's been barely a week since they've been there and for some of that, Nadia hasn't always been involved in stuff so I don't think that bullying can be called at all...I would say similar with Gary last time, that he was wanted out and was 'hounded' but that was persistent and all through the series...I think that no matter what Nadia did/didn't do etc..BB wouldn't have ejected him unless they thought it was the right thing because potentially Nadia V Ken would have been a good viewing thing for them so I reckon that they felt they had no choice...

..(I felt..)..that he didn't so much indicate that he didn't want the conversation to continue but rather that he had to go out for the task and she said, I'll get my shoes or something...


..I have to say that I didn't understand the calling the police bit/it almost felt that there were parts of the conversation that we didn't see...I do agree though that she should back off a bit and allow Cami and Chloe to deal with stuff themselves ...especially Chloe seems very level headed and capable and is really showing a lot of maturity...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I'm sure that some people will hate her, Arista and that's their prerogative to do so but she didn't bully Ken, he absolutely was his own downfall by ignoring BB warnings and insisting on being an idiot...and 'old Ken' was not so old as to know exactly what he was doing...

From Bit On The Side Debate
she did.

Ken is Getting his Cash and being removed (some only go in with money up front)
clever

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

From Bit On The Side Debate
she did.

Ken is Getting his Cash and being removed (some only go in with money up front)
clever

..so he probably engineered a bit of 'bullying' then...(although not bullying at all..)...sly little fox just likes the attention from those ladies...win/win situation for him...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..so he probably engineered a bit of 'bullying' then...(although not bullying at all..)...sly little fox just likes the attention from those ladies...win/win situation for him...

I do think there was an element of engineering on his part, after Nadia departed to call the police, he said something along the lines of "I am on the cusp" which I took to mean he knew it wouldn't take much more to be ejected.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I do think there was an element of engineering on his part, after Nadia departed to call the police, he said something along the lines of "I am on the cusp" which I took to mean he knew it wouldn't take much more to be ejected.

...so really this is where it conflicts it all though..because he pushed it to the very limits to gain an ejection and yet when he did just exactly what he intended, some of the others..(females..)..are being vilified for their reactions when those reactions were exactly what he was prompting...I just don't think that you can poke what is just human nature and then say....ughhhh, aren't they awful for acting like that...I don't mean you btw, just generally...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...so really this is where it conflicts it all though..because he pushed it to the very limits to gain an ejection and yet when he did just exactly what he intended, some of the others..(females..)..are being vilified for their reactions when those reactions were exactly what he was prompting...I just don't think that you can poke what is just human nature and then say....ughhhh, aren't they awful for acting like that...I don't mean you btw, just generally...

As I said on another thread the show is about mental stength though, Alexander came out of that battle on top, unfortunately some of the women allowed themselves to be drawn into it. Alicia is not getting enough credit for her actions in there, she is not allowing herself to be dragged into the pack.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..so he probably engineered a bit of 'bullying' then...(although not bullying at all..)...sly little fox just likes the attention from those ladies...win/win situation for him...

She has a Fat Ass.


If only you could record Bit On the Side
om mondays because it with Emma in charge

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

She has a Fat Ass.


If only you could record Bit On the Side
om mondays because it with Emma in charge

..that behaviour in itself is disgusting.../she should never have been allowed in the house without an ass test...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that behaviour in itself is disgusting.../she should never have been allowed in the house without an ass test...

Yes you get me
now