[thinkingoutloud]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course she was offended at the time, who wouldn't be? I think the worst insult you could give a parent is to say they're a bad or even worse what Katie said, a cruel parent

Well as I said, I can't begin to understand why she didn't bring it up there and then rather than leaving it at the time to just raise the issue again the following day, that doesn't make sense to me. It's almost like she was looking for a reason to get back at her after the banana incident and once again, make herself look like the victim and Katie look like the bad girl.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

Well as I said, I can't begin to understand why she didn't bring it up there and then rather than leaving it at the time to just raise the issue again the following day, that doesn't make sense to me. It's almost like she was looking for a reason to get back at her after the banana incident and once again, make herself look like the victim and Katie look like the bad girl.

Katie IS the bad girl.
Alicia did nothing to deserve Katie laying into her.
Katie is slowly showing her true self.
She promised to say what she thought but instead up until now is the most fake HM in there.
She does not have the guts to be the horrible person she is when she is writing these things. Instead she is backing off as she is scared of going face to face with the stronger personalities in there.
Katie is gutless.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

Well as I said, I can't begin to understand why she didn't bring it up there and then rather than leaving it at the time to just raise the issue again the following day, that doesn't make sense to me. It's almost like she was looking for a reason to get back at her after the banana incident and once again, make herself look like the victim and Katie look like the bad girl.

She didn't raise the issue again with her, it was the first time she'd raised it with her after Katie had made those comments. When Katie said that stuff to her, she then got up and left, to me, Alicia looked a bit gob smacked by what she'd just said, I don't think there's anything weird about that. I know if it were me and I was a bit too stunned to respond at the time, it would certainly be something I'd bring up again because it was just an awful thing to say. Some people need time to think about stuff properly before they say something to the person, it's not a bad thing I don't think infact having a bit of a think before she speaks might be something the ever so charming Katie might benefit from

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

Well as I said, I can't begin to understand why she didn't bring it up there and then rather than leaving it at the time to just raise the issue again the following day, that doesn't make sense to me. It's almost like she was looking for a reason to get back at her after the banana incident and once again, make herself look like the victim and Katie look like the bad girl.

Not everyone feels the need to attack a situation like a pitbull some like to think about it and try and resolve when they are a bit calmer or simply she was upset after it was said (and quite rightly so) and wanted to sleep on it but as we know it 'played on her mind' so she had a 1 to 1 to say what she felt when time was ready at least Alicia had the balls to step up to the plate and say it directly to Katie

And for the record we already know Katie is the 'bad girl' after all she upset Alicia more than once with her 'you take the grenade I will take the pin' comments

[Jason.]

I really like Alicia. If Katie starts picking on her all the time, I will go off her.
Don't understand how she is favourite anyway. It's one thing to have controversial opinions, which is fine. But to keeps making digs at Alicia, for no reason other than to just be horrible. It is in my eyes considered bullying. This is coming from somebody who barely uses the word, as it does get thrown around, but that's not the case this time.

Alicia hasn't been nasty to anybody in that house, so it is totally uncalled for.
Gone off Cami as well. She keeps bringing up her appearance, who cares if her ass is fake. Get over it.
I hate to say the word, but jealousy springs to mind.
I hope Calum stays away from her, she's trash.

[Merry Mockmas]

I gathered that you had to like Cami for the “fake ass” comment.

Will Katie take on someone that doesn't look weak? We'll wait and see as she will also not have to resort to insults that a toddler can make.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I gathered that you had to like Cami for the “fake ass” comment.

Will Katie take on someone that doesn't look weak? We'll wait and see as she will also not have to resort to insults that a toddler can make.

She's not known for taking on weak people...

Youtube video

[Jake.]

She's a horrid woman, thought she was being a bit quiet so I'm guessing that now is the perfect opportunity to steal the limelight from Perez.. Just plain nasty, for no real reason whatsoever.

[jennyjuniper]

Alicia isn't as helpless or as innocent as she appears. Her wide eyed look is down to surgery, not meekness. She slept with men and then sold the stories and that doesn't compute with the persona she is trying to project now.
She is garnering the sympathy vote, when in reality she has done bugger all in the house. Yesterday, when she and Katy had their talk, after Katy apologised, they agreed to park it, but she still wouldn't stop harping on.
I don't like anyone being bullied, but methinks Alicia is milking the situation for all it's worth.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Alicia isn't as helpless or as innocent as she appears. Her wide eyed look is down to surgery, not meekness. She slept with men and then sold the stories and that doesn't compute with the persona she is trying to project now.
She is garnering the sympathy vote, when in reality she has done bugger all in the house. Yesterday, when she and Katy had their talk, after Katy apologised, they agreed to park it, but she still wouldn't stop harping on.
I don't like anyone being bullied, but methinks Alicia is milking the situation for all it's worth.

Tbf not many people are saying that Katie is bullying Alicia, we're saying that she's being mean to Alicia for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Alicia isn't as helpless or as innocent as she appears. Her wide eyed look is down to surgery, not meekness. She slept with men and then sold the stories and that doesn't compute with the persona she is trying to project now.
She is garnering the sympathy vote, when in reality she has done bugger all in the house. Yesterday, when she and Katy had their talk, after Katy apologised, they agreed to park it, but she still wouldn't stop harping on.
I don't like anyone being bullied, but methinks Alicia is milking the situation for all it's worth.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Alicia isn't as helpless or as innocent as she appears. Her wide eyed look is down to surgery, not meekness. She slept with men and then sold the stories and that doesn't compute with the persona she is trying to project now.
She is garnering the sympathy vote, when in reality she has done bugger all in the house. Yesterday, when she and Katy had their talk, after Katy apologised, they agreed to park it, but she still wouldn't stop harping on.
I don't like anyone being bullied, but methinks Alicia is milking the situation for all it's worth.

I noticed on the HLs last night, Alicia was saying words to the effect to Katie 'if I was rude to you...and said this and that...'

Katie didn't like it. She can give it but not take it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Alicia isn't as helpless or as innocent as she appears. Her wide eyed look is down to surgery, not meekness. She slept with men and then sold the stories and that doesn't compute with the persona she is trying to project now.
She is garnering the sympathy vote, when in reality she has done bugger all in the house. Yesterday, when she and Katy had their talk, after Katy apologised, they agreed to park it, but she still wouldn't stop harping on.
I don't like anyone being bullied, but methinks Alicia is milking the situation for all it's worth.

Great post and spot on

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Alicia isn't as helpless or as innocent as she appears. Her wide eyed look is down to surgery, not meekness. She slept with men and then sold the stories and that doesn't compute with the persona she is trying to project now.
She is garnering the sympathy vote, when in reality she has done bugger all in the house. Yesterday, when she and Katy had their talk, after Katy apologised, they agreed to park it, but she still wouldn't stop harping on.
I don't like anyone being bullied, but methinks Alicia is milking the situation for all it's worth.

I don't think that you need to be strong to sleep with men, and sell stories. She appears extremely timid, and a timid person can sleep with people, and sell stories.

[Babayaro.]

A talent for insulting people

[Mick]

I feel that when using a forum such as this and finding yourself in disagreement with another members comments its not what you say but how you say it which can cause an interesting debate to turn into a negative trade off.

This is how I perceive Katie who is an intelligent Woman well able to make her point without indulging in OTT sarcasm and rudeness. I think she was correct concerning Alicias actions RE her child and meat but Cruel was not a good choice of word.

[Kazanne]

We all know what Katie is like,even Alicia,surely she would be savvy enough to ignore or retort to what she thinks Katie said wrong,why just air it to people who really don't care.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We all know what Katie is like,even Alicia,surely she would be savvy enough to ignore or retort to what she thinks Katie said wrong,why just air it to people who really don't care.

She did say it to Katie though on last nights h/ls. She was probably a bit caught off guard during the actual conversation

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We all know what Katie is like,even Alicia,surely she would be savvy enough to ignore or retort to what she thinks Katie said wrong,why just air it to people who really don't care.

In fairness Kazanne she did speak to Katie face to face I really like her.

[-Sue-]

The thing I wonder about Katie is 'Can she have her labotamy reversed?'

[Tarryn]

Katie is going for who she thinks is the weakest in the pack.
She tried it with Patsy & has now moved onto Alicia.
She does not have the guts to go after a Cami or Michelle as they would rip her apart.
Katie is a coward. Nasty people usually are.
What business is it of hers how Alicia raises her children ?.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Katie is going for who she thinks is the weakest in the pack.
She tried it with Patsy & has now moved onto Alicia.
She does not have the guts to go after a Cami or Michelle as they would rip her apart.
Katie is a coward. Nasty people usually are.
What business is it of hers how Alicia raises her children ?.

Nice post

[Lostie!]

Oh, she's just being honest. Or joking. Or putting on a "mean" act. Or some other excuse people pull out for Katie without any regard for consistency. Either way, YAAAAAAASS FLAWLESS QWEEEEEEN SLAYSSSSS!

But seriously, she's a seriously unlikeable person. I get that she was being insulting as part of the talent show, but she clearly targetted Alicia because she knew she'd hurt her.

As for the people questioning why Alicia didn't speak up at the time, it's clear as day that she's not confident with confrontation. Just another reason why Katie is proving herself to be an utter coward by making her the main focus of her vitriol.

[Pincho Paxton]

I think that Alicia has an OCD version of vegetarianism.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I think that Alicia has an OCD version of vegetarianism.

Why do you think that?