[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

She's still considered a child at 16? And they're thinking of giving 16 year olds the vote? How does that work out...?

Having said that, he's a teacher and should have known better.

regardless of whether or not you think a 16 year old is a child or not, that man was her teacher and so had a duty of care and responsibility to her. Parents shouldn't have to worry about this kind of stuff while their child is in school. That man should never be allowed to work with kids again. The subjects that he was teaching as well, religion and ethics mmhmm

[Crimson Dynamo]

‘emotional instability’ when they first had sex because his wife had just had a miscarriage.

what a load of utter crap

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's really common for girls of that age to develop a crush on teachers he should have made people aware and no acted on his urges.

This for me, in the end he should have sought assistance to deal with it if he felt things were getting really difficult.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This for me, in the end he should have sought assistance to deal with it if he felt things were getting really difficult.

To be fair he did develop and instigate the emergency condom scheme where he had the foresight to ensure he always had condoms available should his sexual urges become too strong.






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[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

‘emotional instability’ when they first had sex because his wife had just had a miscarriage.

what a load of utter crap

I've got to agree.

We have only his word that she was the predator, and carrying a condom smacks to me of 'being prepared' in the vilest opportunist sense.

If she was 16 when sex first took place, then his 'offence' was not a legal issue, but very much a 'moral' and 'ethical' one, and his actions are not mitigated because of her age.

He was in a position of trust - a position which afforded him access to children and naive young adults, and even if the 16 year old was infatuated, he willingly availed himself of an opportunity to turn that childish infatuation into a sexual relationship for his own gratification instead of handling it with maturity and self-control.

No intelligent, mature, middle-aged man can ever be 'forced' or 'pressured' into having a relationship - let alone sexual one - with a 16 year old girl, no matter how infatuated or 'persistent' she is alleged to have been, and he has no excuses at all for his actions when there were other solutions available to him.

Perhaps this sick-minded Judge would have decreed Jimmy Savile's vile sex with some of those patients he was trusted with and had access to as OK because they were over the age of consent and were infatuated with him.

The judge needs removing for her comments, her bias, and her total lack of wisdom.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I've got to agree.

We have only his word that she was the predator, and carrying a condom smacks to me of 'being prepared' in the vilest opportunist sense.

If she was 16 when sex first took place, then his 'offence' was not a legal issue, but very much a 'moral' and 'ethical' one, and his actions are not mitigated because of her age.

He was in a position of trust - a position which afforded him access to children and naive young adults, and even if the 16 year old was infatuated, he willingly availed himself of an opportunity to turn that childish infatuation into a sexual relationship for his own gratification instead of handling it with maturity and self-control.

No intelligent, mature, middle-aged man can ever be 'forced' or 'pressured' into having a relationship - let alone sexual one - with a 16 year old girl, no matter how infatuated or 'persistent' she is alleged to have been, and he has no excuses at all for his actions when there were other solutions available to him.

Perhaps this sick-minded Judge would have decreed Jimmy Savile's vile sex with some of those patients he was trusted with and had access to as OK because they were over the age of consent and were infatuated with him.

The judge needs removing for her comments, her bias, and her total lack of wisdom.

[the truth]

haven't read the details but this seems a pretty bizarre case. though for decades young women have chasen men and torn off their clothes and never ever been charged, if a man did it? his life would be over.