[Angelika]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Give me just one example of bullying outside from KH. Opinions are not bullying. Where as Perez does. He has been arrested for stalking.

In the house, Perez has used the homophobic card three times and the race card once to try to belittle for his sick gameplan and the only real attempt at bullying has come from him against Alex.

KH's support has mainly come about because she is giving the sicko some of his own medicine back.

Peaches Geldof.........about her baby! A very low blow indeed the months later Peaches is no more. Her comments distress people.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Because opinion and being forthright is not slander or against the law. I watched the apprentice and saw no bullying just a stronger case against weaker opponents.

You've stumbled across her favourite target - weaker people.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Her whole persona is about shouting over people in discussions and it usually involves some petty juvenile insults too. SHe rarely makes a point that is identifiable. Her appearance consist of lots of shouting and lots of insults. Simply youtube katie Hopkins to find multiple examples. She's entitled to her opinions but saying ginger babies are harder to love is not very welcoming or giving anyone a chance.

I agree with some of that, but it is still not bullying as you stated. This Morning would not continuously have her on the show would they.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Angelika

Peaches Geldof.........about her baby! A very low blow indeed the months later Peaches is no more. Her comments distress people.

Still not bullying though. Opinions can offend. Just as if i said the pope is a ****.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by abhorson

I agree with some of that, but it is still not bullying as you stated. This Morning would not continuously have her on the show would they.

she's had vids that had over 6 million views on youtube after appearances on This morning. No matter how much Phillip and Holly argue with her she's one of their better guests for attention. In which lies the key .

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

she's had vids that had over 6 million views on youtube after appearances on This morning. No matter how much Phillip and Holly argue with her she's one of their better guests for attention. In which lies the key .

I dislike what she does for a living too.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by abhorson

I dislike what she does for a living too.

I find her not likeable at all so I'm stunned she's likely to win this series. She's had quite a few tasks set up for her like the opening night and the scouts task so good luck to her but shame on BB for intentionally giving so much airtime..

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I find her not likeable at all so I'm stunned she's likely to win this series. She's had quite a few tasks set up for her like the opening night and the scouts task so good luck to her but shame on BB for intentionally giving so much airtime..

Her support here and outside has imo mainly been due to her being the main protagonist in giving Perez exactly what he deserves. If Perez had gone yesterday. I believe some support would have waned. Him staying will only garner more.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Her support here and outside has imo mainly been to her being the main protagonist in giving Perez exactly what he deserves. If Perez had gone yesterday. I believe some support would have waned. Him staying will only garner more.

Kind of agree. ITs shame people dislike Perez so much they're voting for some one just as awful.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Because opinion and being forthright is not slander or against the law. I watched the apprentice and saw no bullying just a stronger case against weaker opponents.

I didn't see any bullying from Hopkins in the apprentice house. I also didn't see her as a strong candidate though and she knew she was up against some stronger people; that's why she left early. One thing that stands out about Hopkins is, she can't ever afford to lose and that's why she says very little about herself in the BB house. Information can be used as a weapon and as far as Hopkins is concerned, the less they know, the less ammunition they will have.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Kind of agree. ITs shame people dislike Perez so much they're voting for some one just as awful.

Although imo, nowhere near as awful.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Angelika

She's a vile bully, she showed that in The Apprentice and is still one today.
Read this and gasp!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...ageous-4404987

I personally don't know how she has avoided court cases and more.

Sorry Angelika,although it comes across as nasty,I am sure all of those things can be explained in a way people would understand,KH just says it with more vitriole than most.

[Razor]

She is a vile person who thinks she is above everyone else.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I didn't see any bullying from Hopkins in the apprentice house. I also didn't see her as a strong candidate though and she knew she was up against some stronger people; that's why she left early. One thing that stands out about Hopkins is, she can't ever afford to lose and that's why she says very little about herself in the BB house. Information can be used as a weapon and as far as Hopkins is concerned, the less they know, the less ammunition they will have.

Very fair. And i can imagine that she would not let a five year old win a game at all costs.

[abhorson]

Nice to have debate without anybody getting all het up.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sorry Angelika,although it comes across as nasty,I am sure all of those things can be explained in a way people would understand,KH just says it with more vitriole than most.

So all of those quotes have been taken out of context have they?

[fitz2k2]

enough of the word bullying yall cant think of a diff word my gosh

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

So all of those quotes have been taken out of context have they?

If it was possible to sit with Katie and talk about them one to one,I am sure there would be some reasonable cause for what she says,I don't think you should take what she says literally,but we are all different in our take on things.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

enough of the word bullying yall cant think of a diff word my gosh

Are you trying to bully us into not using the word bully

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

If it was possible to sit with Katie and talk about them one to one,I am sure there would be some reasonable cause for what she says,I don't think you should take what she says literally,but we are all different in our take on things.

IF Katie is saying something different when I'm one on one as opposed with cameras and millions of people watching then I stand by my conclusion of her as a fake. I thought she was supposed to be honest? Thats not very honest at all IMO.

[ebandit]

why do some think that katie h should be pressured into writing in magnolia

ink?............................who was it that said? i don't like what they say........

but i defend their right to say it

remember? we all have opportunity to answer back................the internet

is mightier than the assault rifle..........internet warriors unite!

Mark L

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by RichardG

Based purely on their actions within the house, Perez has been an irritant (as highlighted by the arguments/general chaos he caused last week) but Katie's response to him has been wholly out of proportion and downright nasty, and I'd argue that she fits the definition of a 'bully' much more, along with her awful friend Cami. However, i've never gone down that route because I'm aware of the stuff Perez does outside the house and so know that in reality he's no better than her.

I do find it laughable the way some act as though one of the two are 'superior' to the other, as if there's a 'good guy' and a 'bad guy' in this storyline when it's blatantly obvious that that is not the case. I fail to see any deep routed innocence in either of them, no 'mask' you can remove to find a lovely person hidden behind. No genuinely nice person would say the things that they do so publicly.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by RichardG

I do find it laughable the way some act as though one of the two are 'superior' to the other, as if there's a 'good guy' and a 'bad guy' in this storyline when it's blatantly obvious that that is not the case. I fail to see any deep routed innocence in either of them, no 'mask' you can remove to find a lovely person hidden behind. No genuinely nice person would say the things that they do so publicly and get so much pleasure from the mass offence they're causing.

Well said Richard but I have to say, I don't find what they say offensive, just ignorant. We can all cause a cluster f-ck online; we are all capable of trolling or being a keyboard warrior if we are that way minded but unless we have an entire back up team, we will only ever reach out to a very small audience. Hopkins and Parez really are no different to all the other people who regularly offend others on social networking sites, the only difference is, they both have a financial support system behind them.

ED for added words!

[the truth]

as long as shes hating an American we dont care, were so profoundly anti American , its pathetic

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by the truth

as long as shes hating an American we dont care, were so profoundly anti American , its pathetic

Put a poll up.