[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Josy

OMFG is this troll actually serious? could she be any more transparent?

That would be the GBP apart from the fat, the ginger haired, the single parents, anyone that shops in Primark, the Scottish, left wing, anyone with the bad luck to contract Ebola whilst helping other people, from the North, the working class, anyone who claims benefits, anyone named after a geographical location (like her kid), disabled people, owners of mobility scooters, people with tattoo's, chavs, vegans/vegetarians....you get the gist..

So yeah Katie is trying so much to win this and manipulate the people that have been voting to save her even further.

Silly woman, she has won it from the start because it's been the big Katie Hopkins redemption story since Day 1 so someone please tell her to stop trying suck up the viewers arses because it's making me sick.

I think it will be hilarious though when she gets out and starts trolling the GBP constantly again like she's always done.

Well I am none of the above except for 2 tattoos', a ''w'' on each bum cheek so when I bend over it says wow and I love her and there are hundreds of thousands of us out here that understand that her jibes are specifically aimed at the people who deliberately need to be singled out.

She uses a blanket statement but even the simpletons amongst us realise what she means. She generalises when she says fat lazy dole crunchers and most of us understand she does not mean all fat people and defo not all that are unemployed, that's a generalisation her haters use to malign her.

When she gets out she will be revered and loved as Jim Davidson was and she will form part of an ever growing group of outspoken ''love or hate'' characters on our screens that we love to hate or love with equal impunity. There will even be a place in society for Perez fans as well as he feeds the needs of a section of our society, so none of them are losers except maybe Nadia as she is acting like a dumb bitch which never goes down well in any society.

So does Hoppo have the right to say ''her people'', I think she does and good on her. She is a voice that represents way more than she offends which affords her celebrity status which will give her an even higher platform to scream abuse from.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Well I am none of the above except for 2 tattoos', a ''w'' on each bum cheek so when I bend over it says wow and I love her and there are hundreds of thousands of us out here that understand that her jibes are specifically aimed at the people who deliberately need to be singled out.

She uses a blanket statement but even the simpletons amongst us realise what she means. She generalises when she says fat lazy dole crunchers and most of us understand she does not mean all fat people and defo not all that are unemployed, that's a generalisation her haters use to malign her.

When she gets out she will be revered and loved as Jim Davidson was and she will form part of an ever growing group of outspoken ''love or hate'' characters on our screens that we love to hate or love with equal impunity. There will even be a place in society for Perez fans as well as he feeds the needs of a section of our society, so none of them are losers except maybe Nadia as she is acting like a dumb bitch which never goes down well in any society.

So does Hoppo have the right to say ''her people'', I think she does and good on her. She is a voice that represents way more than she offends which affords her celebrity status which will give her an even higher platform to scream abuse from.

I can't quite believe that you said that. People who need to be singled out. Wow. What a dreadful thing to say.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I can't quite believe that you said that. People who need to be singled out. Wow. What a dreadful thing to say.

No it isn't, in the main and present company accepted, the majority of people that take offence are those she is aiming her comments at.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by sampvt

No it isn't, in the main and present company accepted, the majority of people that take offence are those she is aiming her comments at.

That isn't the point. The point is who made you and her the judge and jury on peoples lives, hair colour, weight problems, benefit needs, names etc. How dare you. Everyone has a story, genetics, factors that affect their lives. Who are you and she to judge who needs to be publicly berated for whatever it is about them you find offensive. When you and she are perfect, start lobbing the stones.

[Spring]

Originally Posted by jaxie

That isn't the point. The point is who made you and her the judge and jury on peoples lives, hair colour, weight problems, benefit needs, names etc. How dare you. Everyone has a story, genetics, factors that affect their lives. Who are you and she to judge who needs to be publicly berated for whatever it is about them you find offensive. When you and she are perfect, start lobbing the stones.

^^^ This is true^^^

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by jaxie

That isn't the point. The point is who made you and her the judge and jury on peoples lives, hair colour, weight problems, benefit needs, names etc. How dare you. Everyone has a story, genetics, factors that affect their lives. Who are you and she to judge who needs to be publicly berated for whatever it is about them you find offensive. When you and she are perfect, start lobbing the stones.

People who spend their lives criticising others and spreading hate are pretty worthless people

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

People who spend their lives criticising others and spreading hate are pretty worthless people

Small minded selfish people, she puts her pay cheque above decency.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by jaxie

That isn't the point. The point is who made you and her the judge and jury on peoples lives, hair colour, weight problems, benefit needs, names etc. How dare you. Everyone has a story, genetics, factors that affect their lives. Who are you and she to judge who needs to be publicly berated for whatever it is about them you find offensive. When you and she are perfect, start lobbing the stones.

If you paid a little more attention to what people wrote, you would not end up looking daft. I have often wrote stuff on her and don't agree with a lot of it but if you are happy cherry picking sentences here and there from a big book, be my guest but I would respectfully ask you to pick on someone else as I am not particularly interested in your attacks, as they are baseless cherry picked quotes which bare no resemblance to what I stand for.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by sampvt

If you paid a little more attention to what people wrote, you would not end up looking daft. I have often wrote stuff on her and don't agree with a lot of it but if you are happy cherry picking sentences here and there from a big book, be my guest but I would respectfully ask you to pick on someone else as I am not particularly interested in your attacks, as they are baseless cherry picked quotes which bare no resemblance to what I stand for.

I don't care what you wrote in other posts I was responding specifically to the outrageous sentence you made in the post I quoted. No cherry picking about it. You said it, I responded to it. I am not the one who looks daft.

And I don't make 'attacks' that is a passive aggressive nonsense thing to say.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't care what you wrote in other posts I was responding specifically to the outrageous sentence you made in the post I quoted. No cherry picking about it. You said it, I responded to it. I am not the one who looks daft.

And I don't make 'attacks' that is a passive aggressive nonsense thing to say.

You made an attack on me and I defended myself. Are we not allowed to defend ourselves anymore. Anyway if you don't like me put me on block or ignore because I find arguments tedious and unnecessary especially when they get us into trouble. have your say, take the retort and move on. Don't do a perez on me please.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

If you paid a little more attention to what people wrote, you would not end up looking daft. I have often wrote stuff on her and don't agree with a lot of it but if you are happy cherry picking sentences here and there from a big book, be my guest but I would respectfully ask you to pick on someone else as I am not particularly interested in your attacks, as they are baseless cherry picked quotes which bare no resemblance to what I stand for.

Firstly, please keep it about the HMs insults towards FMs isn't allowed

Secondly NOONE picked on you they simply replied to your comments

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jaxie

That isn't the point. The point is who made you and her the judge and jury on peoples lives, hair colour, weight problems, benefit needs, names etc. How dare you. Everyone has a story, genetics, factors that affect their lives. Who are you and she to judge who needs to be publicly berated for whatever it is about them you find offensive. When you and she are perfect, start lobbing the stones.

Well it could easily be said there has been just as much bile coming from here against her and her supporters,as anything she has said, also buy that token,what gives us the right to judge her and others , are you saying you have never judged someone? are you saying you have never spoke a bad word about anyone ? If yes , then good for you ,but the majority of us say and do stuff we really shouldn't we just don't let anyone know that, as we like to be seen as 'nice' people. we suck in all the lovely stuff said about us , but let anyone say anything deemed nasty and they are turned on , even if it's the truth.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well it could easily be said there has been just as much bile coming from here against her and her supporters,as anything she has said, also buy that token,what gives us the right to judge her and others , are you saying you have never judged someone? are you saying you have never spoke a bad word about anyone ? If yes , then good for you ,but the majority of us say and do stuff we really shouldn't we just don't let anyone know that, as we like to be seen as 'nice' people. we suck in all the lovely stuff said about us , but let anyone say anything deemed nasty and they are turned on , even if it's the truth.

I agree that judging people is human nature but to go out of your way to deliberately hurt another person when they have not hurt you is just wrong.
Katie H always makes nasty comments for her own amusement.
I just don't like people who do that.
There are people out there who are genuine & nice, don't judge people on Katie H's VERY low standards.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well it could easily be said there has been just as much bile coming from here against her and her supporters,as anything she has said, also buy that token,what gives us the right to judge her and others , are you saying you have never judged someone? are you saying you have never spoke a bad word about anyone ? If yes , then good for you ,but the majority of us say and do stuff we really shouldn't we just don't let anyone know that, as we like to be seen as 'nice' people. we suck in all the lovely stuff said about us , but let anyone say anything deemed nasty and they are turned on , even if it's the truth.

I'm not sure what you are saying here but it comes across to me that you are saying it is OK to say (for example) ginger is ugly (genetics) but its not OK to say that is an ugly thing to say?

No one perfect. But I do my best to see people and not what colour their hair, or their face is etc. Isn't that what we all should do?

I think you are mistaking opinions on decent behaviour for forum support. For the record regards CBB this time about the only one I actually like is Keith but hate is a pretty strong word. I think the only person from any CBB who actually revolts me is James Jordan but I've not watched every season.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well it could easily be said there has been just as much bile coming from here against her and her supporters,as anything she has said, also buy that token,what gives us the right to judge her and others , are you saying you have never judged someone? are you saying you have never spoke a bad word about anyone ? If yes , then good for you ,but the majority of us say and do stuff we really shouldn't we just don't let anyone know that, as we like to be seen as 'nice' people. we suck in all the lovely stuff said about us , but let anyone say anything deemed nasty and they are turned on , even if it's the truth.

Oh Kazanne

You know fine well as soon as someone goes into BB they put themselves forwards for scrutiny by the viewers.

The thing is Katie Hopkins was massively judged beforehand so she is definitely going to be judged now.

Everyone judges whether they admit it or not but thankfully it's the minority that spout nasty vile undeserved hatred towards others that have never done a thing wrong to them and all in the name of making a few quid.

And it's not 'free speech' either IMO, there is free speech and then there is the guff that Hopkins spouts.

And to see people saying she is telling the truth just shocks me, with the hatred that has poured out of her in the past, it may be her 'truth' but that doesn't make it true to everyone else.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jaxie

That isn't the point. The point is who made you and her the judge and jury on peoples lives, hair colour, weight problems, benefit needs, names etc. How dare you. Everyone has a story, genetics, factors that affect their lives. Who are you and she to judge who needs to be publicly berated for whatever it is about them you find offensive. When you and she are perfect, start lobbing the stones.

e / she who is without sin cast the first stone" Jesus said that to a bunch of moronic men who were about to stone a woman to death for adultery. they all put their stones down and walked away and the woman was allowed to live....and they say Christ is mysogonous? no he was not in any way shape or form.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by sampvt

No it isn't, in the main and present company accepted, the majority of people that take offence are those she is aiming her comments at.

Of course she's going to insult those she fully intended to, but she's also going to insult those of us who believe she has no ethical principles.

(A snitch from one of the blogs I wrote on here)
Free speech is not Katie Hopkins; free speech focuses on the thorny issues that reasonable intelligent people may understandably disagree on whilst holding a different set of common values. Unfettered expression is disruptive and damaging and that's why its never been a civilized option. Unfettered expression is rightly called "The Harm Principle" because of the very negative effects it has on people.

Back to now!
I suspect that many of those who agree with her and those who have come to some uneducated conclusion that this is "Free Speech" (which it very much isn't) are "class warriors" who get a feeling of smugness from Hopkins fatwa against the working class.