[Denver]

I think Ofcom will get a record number of complaints for this

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Stormy

You are reaching. Sure he didn't say it, he just described exactly how he was going to do it.

Not sure there is any other way

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I am honestly shocked to see people defend what he said. Seriously like sitting here shaking my head.

People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jules2

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Then why did Perez and Nadia get Ken out then.....hypocricy. We havent seen the beginning of the argument but we saw the end with his revolting remarks. Typical of him. Just like Nadia to blame Katie, I thought she shook hands with her? Just so twofaced, even then she didnt think Perez was in the wrong.

I frankly don't get your point, I didn't care for him but I really didn't agree with Ken being removed.

However you are selectively,(possibly),overlooking that Ken got a warning too for a so called racist term,. that he had disobeyed BB on and used the same word again,after being told never to again, in a conversation with another housemate.
It was after that he was removed, likely nothing to do with Nadia and Perez, and as I recall most of the other women too were complaining at Ken's comments as to the womens backsides, not just Nadia.

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Calum would've loved it I bet.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I think Ofcom will get a record number of complaints for this

Don't they take any notice of the warning these people

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Perma ban tbh

Tell them it's an exit hole Niamh

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Don't they take any notice of the warning these people

Of course this is a serious issue

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

Well said, it is why I avoid arguments as best I can. Too much to be mended afterwards and a gross misrepresentation often of the people arguing too.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

That excuse doesnt wash with me and wouldnt in a court of law

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Of course this is a serious issue

Is it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by adamski94

That excuse doesnt wash with me and wouldnt in a court of law

Yes mulud

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

People say a lot of weird crazy stuff when they are angry, i think he said it to try to prove his manhood, i mean Katy has poked fun out of his manhood, we don't know what it's been like for him as a gay man in his youth, he said it to the straightest man in the house, who is built like a brick **** house, lets face it Calum could knock him into next week, some men just say these things, (my husband was online playing call of duty, and was threatened bum rape because he kept winning) i was shocked at this because it's a ridiculous thing to say

My point is that in the heat of the moment people say the most ridiculous things.

People do a lot of things in the heat of the moment and still deserve to be punished.

I don't agree it was just a silly off the cuff comment though because he said it over and over again because even when others told him to stop.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is it

Well personally if a stranger I've know for less than a month threatened to stick his penis into my ass I would be concerned

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by adamski94

That excuse doesnt wash with me and wouldnt in a court of law

But you probably have more control of your emotions.....some people don't and say the most ridiculous things.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

But you probably have more control of your emotions.....some people don't and say the most ridiculous things.

This!

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I think Ofcom will get a record number of complaints for this

Yeah...

No.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Well personally if a stranger I've know for less than a month threatened to stick his penis into my ass I would be concerned

If you say so, considering security are standing outside the door AND there was no intention personally I would feel fine

[Vanessa]

He shouldn't have said that, but Callum was also aggressive and they never called him out on it.

[CaudleHalbard]

I assume, and very much hope, that if someone is removed from CBB they lose their fee.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Stormy

You are reaching. Sure he didn't say it, he just described exactly how he was going to do it.

Call it what you will, I couldn't give a flying **** what you think tbh. That is my opinion.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

People do a lot of things in the heat of the moment and still deserve to be punished.

I don't agree it was just a silly off the cuff comment though because he said it over and over again because even when others told him to stop.

I agree with you, but i really don't think Calum would have perceived it as a threat or a danger to his being. I think it started off as an off the cuff comment, but ended up as a bit of peacocking!

[D_LO_]

To bring rape into this is completely farcical and shows the depths some people will resort to. It's a very, very cheap, shameful way to try and score points especially considering it's such a serious subject. Outside of the house it's a non-issue most of the time and an insult plenty of us have probably heard. Obviously in the house freedom of speech is more censored so a warning is appropriate but please don't try and suggest 'rape' was ever on the cards or at the fore front of Perez's intentions. Any rational person can see from that altercation there was no suggestion at all of this.

You have a much more creditable argument if you steer clear of 'rape' and focus on the vulgarity and decency of what Perez said. Sensible people would probably accept that and not even enter a debate on the matter. There's a real lack of perspective which is magnified ten-fold when Perez is involved however.

Re. Nadia 'accepting'/'justifying' the behaviour, she did not actually offer an opinion at all (I'm sure she would be criticised for getting involved if she did, oh the hypocrisy) All she stated was that Katie H instigated the argument. This cannot be confirmed or denied from the brief footage but lets face it Callum isn't easily manipulated nor has he never been wound up by Katie H (Not justifying Perez's behaviour who did himself no favours and was clearly 'most' in the wrong but I would suggest the others are far from being whiter than white themselves either)

Also for the record I doubt this would even make the top 5 most contentious moments in the house this year.

[Vanessa]

Perez went way over the line but people have to know that Katie, Callum and Cami are ganging up to provoke him.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

But you probably have more control of your emotions.....some people don't and say the most ridiculous things.

So its ok to sexual assault someone because your not in control of your emotions?