[D_LO_]

To bring rape into this is completely farcical and shows the depths some people will resort to. It's a very, very cheap, shameful way to try and score points especially considering it's such a serious subject. Outside of the house it's a non-issue most of the time and an insult plenty of us have probably heard. Obviously in the house freedom of speech is more censored so a warning is appropriate but please don't try and suggest 'rape' was ever on the cards or at the fore front of Perez's intentions. Any rational person can see from that altercation there was no suggestion at all of this.

You have a much more creditable argument if you steer clear of 'rape' and focus on the vulgarity and decency of what Perez said. Sensible people would probably accept that and not even enter a debate on the matter. There's a real lack of perspective which is magnified ten-fold when Perez is involved however.

Re. Nadia 'accepting'/'justifying' the behaviour, she did not actually offer an opinion at all (I'm sure she would be criticised for getting involved if she did, oh the hypocrisy) All she stated was that Katie H instigated the argument. This cannot be confirmed or denied from the brief footage but lets face it Callum isn't easily manipulated nor has he never been wound up by Katie H (Not justifying Perez's behaviour who did himself no favours and was clearly 'most' in the wrong but I would suggest the others are far from being whiter than white themselves either)

Also for the record I doubt this would even make the top 5 most contentious moments in the house this year.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by D_LO_

To bring rape into this is completely farcical and shows the depths some people will resort to. It's a very, very cheap, shameful way to try and score points especially considering it's such a serious subject. Outside of the house it's a non-issue most of the time and an insult plenty of us have probably heard. Obviously in the house freedom of speech is more censored so a warning is appropriate but please don't try and suggest 'rape' was ever on the cards or at the fore front of Perez's intentions. Any rational person can see from that altercation there was no suggestion at all of this.

You have a much more creditable argument if you steer clear of 'rape' and focus on the vulgarity and decency of what Perez said. Sensible people would probably accept that and not even enter a debate on the matter. There's a real lack of perspective which is magnified ten-fold when Perez is involved however.

Re. Nadia 'accepting'/'justifying' the behaviour, she did not actually offer an opinion at all (I'm sure she would be criticised for getting involved if she did, oh the hypocrisy) All she stated was that Katie H instigated the argument. This cannot be confirmed or denied from the brief footage but lets face it Callum isn't easily manipulated nor has he never been wound up by Katie H (Not justifying Perez's behaviour who did himself no favours and was clearly 'most' in the wrong but I would suggest the others are far from being white than white themselves either)

Also for the record I doubt this would even make the top 5 most contentious moments in the house this year.

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[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by D_LO_

To bring rape into this is completely farcical and shows the depths some people will resort to. It's a very, very cheap, shameful way to try and score points especially considering it's such a serious subject. Outside of the house it's a non-issue most of the time and an insult plenty of us have probably heard. Obviously in the house freedom of speech is more censored so a warning is appropriate but please don't try and suggest 'rape' was ever on the cards or at the fore front of Perez's intentions. Any rational person can see from that altercation there was no suggestion at all of this.

You have a much more creditable argument if you steer clear of 'rape' and focus on the vulgarity and decency of what Perez said. Sensible people would probably accept that and not even enter a debate on the matter. There's a real lack of perspective which is magnified ten-fold when Perez is involved however.

Re. Nadia 'accepting'/'justifying' the behaviour, she did not actually offer an opinion at all (I'm sure she would be criticised for getting involved if she did, oh the hypocrisy) All she stated was that Katie H instigated the argument. This cannot be confirmed or denied from the brief footage but lets face it Callum isn't easily manipulated nor has he never been wound up by Katie H (Not justifying Perez's behaviour who did himself no favours and was clearly 'most' in the wrong but I would suggest the others are far from being whiter than white themselves either)

Also for the record I doubt this would even make the top 5 most contentious moments in the house this year.