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mazerunner_888 · 01-02-2015, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Please answer my question.

Q:Pratez states CLEARLY on his OWN website that he promises to not bully anymore. Can someone please explain why he said that if he is in fact NOT a bully?

He himself says he is a bully. His words. Explain?

Maybe you should post link.

keekee21 · 01-02-2015, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

And none of the above has he brought upon himself? Please explain?

I cannot explain really, if it did not happen to me then I would agree with everything you say, you have to go through being ostracised in order to understand how socially impactful it is, most people just say, why do you care so much but it is human nature.

He is annoying, he is loud, he has got aspersers (probably) but no-one in life deserves to feel so bad that they compare it to their fathers death. I really believe that he was being honest as I said when people "exclude" you intentionally, and ignore you, it is like you are dead but still alive.

Glenn. · 01-02-2015, 10:23 PM

He deserves to break. He's been repugnant

Johnnyuk123 · 01-02-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mazerunner_888

Maybe you should post link.

I expected nothing less from you. Can't answer a simple question speaks volumes.

Mystic Mock · 01-02-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Like Katie Hopkins, it does seem to me likely that those who support Katie Hopkins, and it is their right to do so if they believe she is a good person and does right,are possibly more eager to talk about Perez by making threads about him.
However to call those who defend him trolls, at times I add because we who 'like' him do see and point out his faults too in the main,is out of line in my view.

I don't fall for things easily and resent being inferred I would, and I don't believe this was for show from Perez,I have already said enough on this earlier on this thread.
He is likely broken at this moment in time, there comes a time for reflection and the alcohol will have probably brought him down too.

He started that game where they talked about being drunk, it may have hit him that things could have been different in there but he also knows there is the 'gorgon',with snakes for hair,(Katie Hopkins that is), who would have him turned into stone if she could, hissing all the time and setting out to bring him down and 'influence' others to ostracise him.

She has no right to do that at all,no right to even just 'suggest' it,living with someone in that scenario,knowing they are trying to get you ostracised, must be literally near unbearable.

I 100% agree with you Joey.

And certain people calling FB posters pathetic when they report people, and Ignore people at a drop of a hat is quite amusing.

Johnnyuk123 · 01-02-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by keekee21

I cannot explain really, if it did not happen to me then I would agree with everything you say, you have to go through being ostracised in order to understand how socially impactful it is, most people just say, why do you care so much but it is human nature.

He is annoying, he is loud, he has got aspersers (probably) but no-one in life deserves to feel so bad that they compare it to their fathers death. I really believe that he was being honest as I said when people "exclude" you intentionally, and ignore you, it is like you are dead but still alive.

If people exclude you for no reason then i would take your point and actually agree. BUT... That is not the reason why they walk away from him is it? They walk away from him because of his own actions towards them.

abhorson · 01-02-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules2

Lets leave Kav out of this he hasnt done anything wrong other than to tell Keith to F off. I cant even remember why now but he apologised and they made it up. Keith has been a bit OCD in there and hasnt really joined in with the others. I thought they were both rilliant in the task, loved Keith comparing, he had it down to a T but felt sorry for Kav having to read out those horrible tweets which he did do brilliantly.

With Prez had Nadia been there he wouldnt have been so mournful, ok she was his friend. It is up to the others to go to him if they feel sorry for him so perhaps he is just crying out for attention after realising he has been a naughty boy. On the other hand he will be as bright as a button and back to normal service. He is a brilliant actor and he is trying to make himself the victim in something which he orchestrated.

I knew Keith was a clean freak. But yes OCD.

Great point. Another with mental a health problem and added to the drink problem.

**** me.

keekee21 · 01-02-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules2

He ostracised himself, he chose to just run with Nadia his enabler. Even now he could join in if he wants to. He will take the reins so I do not feel sorry for him at all, he is a good actor and wants to win by hook or by crook.

He was being ostrazised by the others way before when KH started to create it, which resulted in him being pals with Nadia.

mazerunner_888 · 01-02-2015, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I expected nothing less from you. Can't answer a simple question speaks volumes.

Oh it's mysteriously disappeared has it?

I want to see context.

Mystic Mock · 01-02-2015, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Why would the housemates left want to hang out with Pratez? They want to hang out with him because...................?

Maybe because they actually would have fun in the house instead of following Squidward all the time.

Johnnyuk123 · 01-02-2015, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mazerunner_888

Oh it's mysteriously disappeared has it?

I want to see context.

Strange how his fan does not know where his website is.

mazerunner_888 · 01-02-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Strange how his fan does not know where his website is.

It's a big site. I want link to where he says he will not bully in the house.

mazerunner_888 · 01-02-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Maybe because they actually would have fun in the house instead of following Squidward all the time.

Mystic Mock · 01-02-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Strange how his fan does not know where his website is.

Because not all of us was a fan of his before the show and have actually liked him on CBB.

Unlike some.

joeysteele · 01-02-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I 100% agree with you Joey.

And certain people calling FB posters pathetic when they report people, and Ignore people at a drop of a hat is quite amusing.

The other things is Mock,he will have brought a lot to mind likely since Nadia went.
He may even be blaming himself for her going too.

He also knew 100% while she was in the house, he could never have been ostracised, she would have always been with him.
Despite Katie Price and Keith being okay with him, he no longer has that certainty of not being so with Katie Hopkins still 'at' him.

To deliberately set out to and organise others to ostracise someone,well that does come nearer bullying than anything else that has happened thus far in this series.

I am sorry to hear some members here say they have been ostracised,it must be a really horrible thing to happen to anyone and cause them massive distress.
Something not to be laughed at,supported or applauded but condemned at every opportunity in my opinion.

Jules2 · 01-02-2015, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keekee21

I cannot explain really, if it did not happen to me then I would agree with everything you say, you have to go through being ostracised in order to understand how socially impactful it is, most people just say, why do you care so much but it is human nature.

He is annoying, he is loud, he has got aspersers (probably) but no-one in life deserves to feel so bad that they compare it to their fathers death. I really believe that he was being honest as I said when people "exclude" you intentionally, and ignore you, it is like you are dead but still alive.

Hi Keekee, you are putting your own feelings into play, dont do that because it doesnt help you. You know who you are and I have every reason to think that you are a lovely person with lots of empathy. Dont let others get you down, just be yourself, dont expect anything and gradually things will just happen. Love is grand and there is plenty to go around.

The players in this game will come out with plenty of rewards, noone person can be liked by everyone so they will have their negative vibes along with their positive ones. The best thing they will have is a great big bank balance.

Perez and the two Katies have been in reality shows before so they know how to handle the situations. If they slip up then it is up to them to get themselves out of that situation. They are each individual people with their own agenda.

By all means we must each stand up for who we want to but dont take it to heart as it sometimes hurts ((hugs)).

abhorson · 01-02-2015, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I don't like seeing nice, innocent people being isolated for no good reason, that is appalling.

Perez is neither nice, nor innocent, he deserves to be ostracized for the way he has treated people throughout the series, i have no sympathy for him whatsoever.. in fact, it actually brings me a bit of joy to see him miserable

It is another sad act aided by booze.

He has not listened to HM's or BB when warned.

Crappy scum.

Johnnyuk123 · 01-02-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mazerunner_888

It's a big site. I want link to where he says he will not bully in the house.

I think Ke$ha would also disagree with you.

Youtube video

Jules2 · 01-02-2015, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

The other things is Mock,he will have brought a lot to mind likely since Nadia went.
He may even be blaming himself for her going too.

He also knew 100% while she was in the house, he could never have been ostracised, she would have always been with him.
Despite Katie Price and Keith being okay with him, he no longer has that certainty of not being so with Katie Hopkins still 'at' him.

To deliberately set out to and organise others to ostracise someone,well that does come nearer bullying than anything else that has happened thus far in this series.

I am sorry to hear some members here say they have been ostracised,it must be a really horrible thing to happen to anyone and cause them massive distress.
Something not to be laughed at,supported or applauded but condemned at every opportunity in my opinion.

The thing is we now have to realise that this is what he tried to do to Katie H. we learnt quite a little bit with Michelles outburst. So what can we say but, what goes around comes around.

abhorson · 01-02-2015, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.

And you are supporting Perez.

Whatever floats your boat! An unsteady boat.

Mystic Mock · 01-02-2015, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

The other things is Mock,he will have brought a lot to mind likely since Nadia went.
He may even be blaming himself for her going too.

He also knew 100% while she was in the house, he could never have been ostracised, she would have always been with him.
Despite Katie Price and Keith being okay with him, he no longer has that certainty of not being so with Katie Hopkins still 'at' him.

To deliberately set out to and organise others to ostracise someone,well that does come nearer bullying than anything else that has happened thus far in this series.

I am sorry to hear some members here say they have been ostracised,it must be a really horrible thing to happen to anyone and cause them massive distress.
Something not to be laughed at,supported or applauded but condemned at every opportunity in my opinion.

Well as I was someone that was bullied for being “different” at School, I personally find it offensive that people cheer that stuff on as it reminds me of how some people wanted me to get bullied at School and how the Teachers wouldn't do anything about it, in Perez's case BB is that Teacher that won't do anything about Cami's temper/physically pushing Perez, Calum looking like he was gonna knock Perez out, and Hopkins wanting to isolate him, and being constantly Xenophobic about him.

I dread to think if these same people was ever bullied and other people started laughing and loving it, how they would react and if they would see it as “karma” then?

the truth · 01-02-2015, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well as I was someone that was bullied for being “different” at School, I personally find it offensive that people cheer that stuff on as it reminds me of how some people wanted me to get bullied at School and how the Teachers wouldn't do anything about it, in Perez's case BB is that Teacher that won't do anything about Cami's temper/physically pushing Perez, Calum looking like he was gonna knock Perez out, and Hopkins wanting to isolate him, and being constantly Xenophobic about him.

I dread to think if these same people was ever bullied and other people started laughing and loving it, how they would react and if they would see it as “karma” then?

agreed. what the hell has happened to this country when the masses actively support this vile evil bullying? its absolutely disgusting