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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I was meaning the electorate in general Kirklancaster, I would never get at you or any other member,which would be against the rules anyway.

What annoys me is that you can get these odd few cases of extreme incidents of claimants and benefits, which are splashed all over the media and then you see polls later which are saying,since likely those interviewed have taken that as gospel, voters take the view that those on benefits must be claiming wrongly.

I see you have listed 2 incidents, I could list incidents I have come across as well,as to incorrect claiming of benefits.
However for every one of those wrong casesI could list in double figures, claims that are right.

I object to these odd cases being presented as the norm and the further millions demonised because of that.
Also you state, someone who has their benefits removed wrongly, get them back and that is good.
However the point is, they should never have lost them in the first place and I have to add that great numbers of people are losing benefits day in and day out wrongly, due to this particualr govts; near persecution and hounding of them.

Also getting their benefits restored can take on average 6 months to a year or even longer, especially when you have to end up going to the courts to achieve that.
These are genuine claimants who are deprived of entitled funds for that time, they don't get it restored until the appeal is won.
That can be devastating and far too long for people who really need the funds to be without them.
That should not happen and should never be right,this govt; gets told this by the CAB, welfare groups and charities endlessly but just arrogantly dismisses those concerns.

This govt; which I am I admit, fed up to the back teeth of, has caused misery for massive amounts of genuine benefit claimants.
The unemployed with their daft sanctions, the changing of names of benefits with even more daft and ridiculous questions that decide if they even get them and the distress and anxiety caused to genuinely sick and disabled people, even those incurably and terminally ill too.

All done on the strength of these odd one or 2 cases that are presented as proof of wrong in the system but which ignore the fact that all but a very tiny proportion do everything pretty much right.

The zeal this govt; employs to save this bit from here and there as to people who are most vulnerable is in my view a disgrace.
All govts; have failed to get to grips with the benefit fraud issue,maybe that is because it is so hard to find because there is in truth so little of it actually happening.

However, as to the weakest,poorest,sick and disabled and therefore the most vulnerable I doubt any govt; since the war has been as heartless and showing no compassion in its dealings with the most vulnerable like this one has been.
It is disgraceful in my view and although sick of saying how wrong I think this govt; treats the most vulnerable in the UK, I feel the need to keep doing so in the hope that decency from the electorate will prevail and they will turn on this govt;for its cowardly beating with a stick those who are among the most in need.

All its language, all its policies as to them is aggressive and bringing them down rather than building up.

So when I see a case or a few cases even of benefit cheating,I quantify it and qualify it by telling myself, from the experience I have found from getting in there with people,that those cases are a tiny minority as Demolition Red said,I prefer to look out for the vast majority who do things in the main, right.

I feel ashamed that any govt; allows a media,especially our lying corrupt media,to demonise those most vulnerable and set those in work against those not for whatever reasons.
However I add total disgust to being ashamed too when I see govt; ministers and even the Prime Minister doing so too.

I see no justification for it whatsoever and for me the sooner these arrogant cowards are sent packing the better for me, will the alternative be better, I have to hope for that but I am sure of one thing, some high level of compassion needs to be instilled into the welfare policies and I have no belief this govt; even knows what compassion is.

I agree, and the disdain is spreading like a virus, the small percentage of fraudsters are portrayed as the majority of welfare claimants and it's believed... regardless of statistics to the contrary.
People who have their head just above the water are looking down on those sinking, they are fracturing communities and society as a whole with this misinformation.
The message from the government appears to be do as I say not as I do..