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yes its interesting that many religions seem to have a very sticky end forecast for those who dont join their gang?




i wonder why...
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they have been doing that for 5000 years

and Livias one has previous
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While I have no idea what religion you claim, and I can believe that you personally have never condemned someone else for their differing beliefs, the design and construct of a religion is faith that the core beliefs of it are the truth, and by saying what you believe is true over anyone's differing beliefs, your religion is putting all others in the category of the condemned by its own doctrine.

"It's true to me that god exists and that if I don't believe in him I go to hell after death" is saying that those not in my religion and belief system are condemned
I'm Jewish and Jews don't believe in hell.

Whatever you believe the design and constructs of a religion are, I personally don't know anyone of any faith who would wish to convert someone... except maybe some Jehovah's Witnesses I lived near once, they were pretty keen on ministry. I've always found that it's people with no faith who are quick to condemn religions by lumping them all together and pulling out the very worst of each one. Extremists - found in virtually all religions - are an exception of course.
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they have been doing that for 5000 years

and Livias one has previous
In our defence, we've spent the last 5000 years either being oppressed or escaping from places.
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I'm Jewish and Jews don't believe in hell.

Whatever you believe the design and constructs of a religion are, I personally don't know anyone of any faith who would wish to convert someone... except maybe some Jehovah's Witnesses I lived near once, they were pretty keen on ministry. I've always found that it's people with no faith who are quick to condemn religions by lumping them all together and pulling out the very worst of each one. Extremists - found in virtually all religions - are an exception of course.
But your faith does believe in a "World to Come" where if you are not born into or apart of the Jewish faith... you do not get to be apart of. A difference to hell yes... but still an exclusion/ condemnation to those who don't qualify.
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But your faith does believe in a "World to Come" where if you are not born into or apart of the Jewish faith... you do not get to be apart of. A difference to hell yes... but still an exclusion/ condemnation to those who don't qualify.
I don't get your point. Are you saying that if I believe in an afterlife, I'm condemning others not of my faith?

Who can say what happens after death? No one, not really. My faith teaches me one thing, someone else's faith teaches them something else. Jesus was a Jew who said that he believed in the Laws of Moses. Does that mean that Christians all go to the same place as Jews? Who knows.

The best I can offer you is, I believe in freedom for everyone to worship as they wish, or not worship if they wish, and live a happy, fulfilled life. I don't believe you have to be religious to do that.
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There are around 4200 religions around the world and even in each one there are hundreds if not thousands of interpretations like catholics, protestant etc

But which one do you think is the right one as they cant all be right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ual_traditions
Whichever one you believe in I guess.
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In our defence, we've spent the last 5000 years either being oppressed or escaping from places.
That sounds rubbish! I think this is why you don't recruit, Livia. You gave up centuries ago because "Join us! You get to be oppressed, AND escape from places." just wasn't selling. Those pesky Christians with their namby-pamby-holdy-handsy magician and those damned door-to-door hard-selling Jovvus Whitnesses were just too hard to compete with. Judaism is a vintage thing, for the more discerning customer. You want to be a Jew? You seek it out yourself! And you had better be bloody sure about your decision.

...I've made myself want to be a Jew now I think. Damn it.
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That sounds rubbish! I think this is why you don't recruit, Livia. You gave up centuries ago because "Join us! You get to be oppressed, AND escape from places." just wasn't selling. Those pesky Christians with their namby-pamby-holdy-handsy magician and those damned door-to-door hard-selling Jovvus Whitnesses were just too hard to compete with. Judaism is a vintage thing, for the more discerning customer. You want to be a Jew? You seek it out yourself! And you had better be bloody sure about your decision.

...I've made myself want to be a Jew now I think. Damn it.
LOL... we only accept applicants who are good at accounting, obviously.
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^and have big noses of course
That's because the air is free!

I don't have a big nose...
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LOL... we only accept applicants who are good at accounting, obviously.
Yes. Much like owning a vintage car - being a Jew is rewarding, but expensive. You must be frugal and save a large portion of your money, as you just never know when it will be needed. For escaping.

It's all starting to make sense...
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Yes. Much like owning a vintage car - being a Jew is rewarding, but expensive. You must be frugal and save a large portion of your money, as you just never know when it will be needed. For escaping.

It's all starting to make sense...
You get it now... book yourself in for a circumcision immediately.
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^and have big noses of course
I think the nose thing is a byproduct rather than a requirement. When you have your head over a desk counting money all day, it just starts to elongate. You can't fight gravity.

I am worried that we're hovering dangerously close to antisemitism at this point...
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I think the nose thing is a byproduct rather than a requirement. When you have your head over a desk counting money all day, it just starts to elongate. You can't fight gravity.

I am worried that we're hovering dangerously close to antisemitism at this point...
No, no... it's in the Torah.

Moses proposes all Jews shall have big noses.
Except for Aaron, he'll have a square 'un.
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That's because the air is free!

I don't have a big nose...

Ahh yes, if there is one things jews like more than money, it's something that's free
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You get it now... book yourself in for a circumcision immediately.
I'm actually already done, which makes the prospect of conversion far less terrifying!

In my teens, I was embarrassed about being "different" and actually decided at one point that as an adult I'd just "pretend to be Jewish" to explain why I was circumcised. I am actually serious. I had forgotten about that plan, and have only just realized how hilarious it was .

My other plan was to "move to America". Ha!
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I'm actually already done, which makes the prospect of conversion far less terrifying!

In my teens, I was embarrassed about being "different" and actually decided at one point that as an adult I'd just "pretend to be Jewish" to explain why I was circumcised. I am actually serious. I had forgotten about that plan, and have only just realized how hilarious it was .

My other plan was to "move to America". Ha!
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i pretty much pull for the jews because of woody allen

and seinfeld and curb


in fact other religions can KMA
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No, no... it's in the Torah.

Moses proposes all Jews shall have big noses.
Not sure if serious...
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Not serious. Blasphemous probably, but not serious.
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i pretty much pull for the jews because of woody allen
Didn't he turn out to be part of Prince Andrew's* paedo-gang though?

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