[Northern Monkey]

Not again.This happened not long ago too.
Russians trying to intimidate?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31530840

[arista]

No its another error
they fly so fast - errors occur

Even UK RAF planes have gone to low in error

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Not again.This happened not long ago too.
Russians trying to intimidate?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31530840

As I have a husband in the RAF and I'm ex-RAF myself I have some insight into this.

They aren't jets they're Bear Turboprops very old but still useful aircraft.

This probing has always gone on but lately has been increased to once or twice a month. They're doing nothing wrong except flying without transponders on and also no lights. The worry is that we'll have a collision.

They probe us, we intercept, they make a note of how long our reaction time is etc. it's all a game, they have recently sent a warship down the channel doing the same thing.

The only difference is it used to be over the North sea and Scotland now they're getting more ambitious.

They're doing it to other NATO members not just us, it's all got worse since the Ukraine trouble started.

The Russians yesterday also had another sortie down the coast of Ireland escorted by tankers which also had us scrambling the QRA aircraft.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

As I have a husband in the RAF I have some insight into this.

They aren't jets they're Bear Turboprops very old but still useful aircraft.

This probing has always gone on but lately has been increased to once or twice a month. They're doing nothing wrong except flying without transponders on and also no lights. The worry is that we'll have a collision.

They probe us, we intercept, they make a note of how long our reaction time is etc. it's all a game, they have recently sent a warship down the channel doing the same thing.

The only difference is it used to be over the North sea and Scotland now they're getting more ambitious.

They're doing it to other NATO members not just us, it's all got worse since the Ukraine trouble started.

well that sounds worrying

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well that sounds worrying

I don't think the Russians are thinking of attacking us any time soon it's all a big game and a little intimidation.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

I don't think the Russians are thinking of attacking us any time soon it's all a big game and a little intimidation.

No, but France might

[Kizzy]

That's what I was thinking :/

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No, but France might

What do you think France is going to do.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

What do you think France is going to do.

rape, pillage, eat our frogs and make us all drive Citroens

*shudder*

[Kizzy]

Maybe they're squaring up to France and not us?...

[Nedusa]

Normally this would not even make the News, but now it's seized on and used as yet another piece of blatant Anti Russian propaganda to frighten people and to try and slowly condition them to think Russia is the "enemy".

They are not, for that you need to look in an entirely different direction.

[Kizzy]

They've been seen, I know they're good but nobody's made an invisible plane yet.

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They've been seen, I know they're good but nobody's made an invisible plane yet.

Not invisible to the naked eye but a few aircraft are almost invisible to radar.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They've been seen, I know they're good but nobody's made an invisible plane yet.

They might have but you won't have seen it

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Maybe they're squaring up to France and not us?...

Look these Jets are at a super fast speed
errors happen.


Our own RAF jets were Flying to low
in South West of England
they broke windows in some homes
some time back

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by arista

Look these Jets are at a super fast speed
errors happen.


Our own RAF jets were Flying to low
in South West of England
they broke windows in some homes
some time back

No.
It's happening more and more recently.
It's Putin flexing his military muscles and testing our response times as said above.They're not fast jets that Russia are sending,Just saw footage on Sky NewsHD and they know exactly where they're going.


Sign of the times

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

As I have a husband in the RAF and I'm ex-RAF myself I have some insight into this.

They aren't jets they're Bear Turboprops very old but still useful aircraft.

This probing has always gone on but lately has been increased to once or twice a month. They're doing nothing wrong except flying without transponders on and also no lights. The worry is that we'll have a collision.

They probe us, we intercept, they make a note of how long our reaction time is etc. it's all a game, they have recently sent a warship down the channel doing the same thing.

The only difference is it used to be over the North sea and Scotland now they're getting more ambitious.

They're doing it to other NATO members not just us, it's all got worse since the Ukraine trouble started.

The Russians yesterday also had another sortie down the coast of Ireland escorted by tankers which also had us scrambling the QRA aircraft.

That's an interesting post with some insider knowledge.Thanks for sharing that.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Normally this would not even make the News, but now it's seized on and used as yet another piece of blatant Anti Russian propaganda to frighten people and to try and slowly condition them to think Russia is the "enemy".

They are not, for that you need to look in an entirely different direction.

It made the news because it's happening more frequently now since the tensions are currently higher than they've been for years between the west and Russia.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No, but France might

A French jet actually scrambled to join our jets to escort the Russian plane out of our air space.They're on our side.

[arista]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

No.
It's happening more and more recently.
It's Putin flexing his military muscles and testing our response times as said above.They're not fast jets that Russia are sending,Just saw footage on Sky NewsHD and they know exactly where they're going.

Yes it is a busy
more now with Russia checking Ex-Nations that they once ran

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

It made the news because it's happening more frequently now since the tensions are currently higher than they've been for years between the west and Russia.

Surely Russia and President Putin has more important things on his mind at the moment than sending over to the UK two aging post Cold War bombers.

I mean why....???? what's to be achieved by this ?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Surely Russia and President Putin has more important things on his mind at the moment than sending over to the UK two aging post Cold War bombers.

I mean why....???? what's to be achieved by this ?

He is showing us he can reach us very easily if he so chooses and testing our reactions.
He is'nt just doing it to us either but other European countries.
It's a little more than a coincidence don't you think that it's happened twice in the last couple of months that we know about and a Russian warship had to be escorted out of the channel recently by our navy.

Do you think these pilots and captains are that stupid that they just get lost and just happen to end up in our territory?
Of course not,They are extremely well trained and know exactly what they are doing.