[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

So... the operative words are that he was forced to back down and declare his party's support for a state-funded health service.

Did you look at the article?.... it went on.

'Now Mr Farage has revived the idea, saying his party will have to “return” to it after the May general election. In a BBC Radio 4 interview to be broadcast today, he said: “I triggered a debate within Ukip that was outright rejected by my colleagues, so I have to accept that. As time goes on, this is a debate that we’re all going to have to return to.”

You can ignore it but the fact is he obviously has this as a plan.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did you look at the article?.... it went on.

'Now Mr Farage has revived the idea, saying his party will have to “return” to it after the May general election. In a BBC Radio 4 interview to be broadcast today, he said: “I triggered a debate within Ukip that was outright rejected by my colleagues, so I have to accept that. As time goes on, this is a debate that we’re all going to have to return to.”

You can ignore it but the fact is he obviously has this as a plan.

I get where you are coming from Kizzy, Nigel Farage has backtracked as to the NHS several times and as you say, he was advocating private/health insurance systems at one time.

We have also seen how on a great number of occasions, where candidates for UKIP are way at odds with things Nigel Farage says anyway,hence his constant need to have to explain what the 'real' thinking is.

Were he to win a fair to good number of seats,also since it seems he can be made to backtrack rather easily, who really knows what he and the rest of UKIPs MPs would support or keep standing for as to the NHS.

It is that, the obscure detail he will not clearly spell out that leaves me very suspicious as to what UKIP overall,'not just him',would decide for the future of the NHS, given the chance.

From the confusion, he and his party have created as to it, I have my suspicions I would not like at all their plans for the NHS, so would not like to see them trusted with it at all,along with their dangerous, in my view, EU policy too.

I have my very firm view, the future of the NHS, for those who care about it, will not be safe in the Conservative party's hands,'never under David Cameron's leadership, or UKIPs now too,that is what I think.

I am pretty sure were the Lib Dems able to form a coalition govt; with Labour after May, then if Labour can still reverse any of the disastrous top down re-organisation doen in this parliament, that the Lib Dems would likely happily march into the lobby to vote to reverse what they supported over the last few years.

A Conservative majority govt; or a Conservative led govt; with UKIP support would probably see,in my view, the end of the NHS as to its founding principles.
With then in place good care for those able to finance same from wealth or health insurance
Followed with a basic healthcare for those most vulnerable.

I really see that happening under this hardline Conservative party,who I felt I couldn't belive and trust with the NHS in 2010 and have been shown to be right to have thought that way then too, and now also UKIP.
I trust neither of them and agree with you, there is a lot very unclear as to UKIP on this issue and a right to be very suspicious of them.

Voters who 'really' care about the NHS however,cannot say they weren't warned what could happen and likely will if they trust either or both of these 2 with the NHS in May.

Having said all that, I deplore these attacks on him and his family.