[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

How? Because I don't want him attacking immigrants for the reason the whole world is suffering a recession? Because he attacks people on benefits? Or is it the fact that he won't blame the Bankers for the whole recession? Or the fact that I don't want him to allow a policy like shopkeepers being allowed to not serve customers based off prejudicial reasons?

I have plenty of reasons to dislike Farage, and all of them very valid.

This is a democracy you know. He is not doing anything illegal, so for you to suggest its perfectly fine for him to be harassed is beyond ridiculous

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

This is a democracy you know. He is not doing anything illegal, so for you to suggest its perfectly fine for him to be harassed is beyond ridiculous

Of course it's a democracy, and it's my right to disagree with his opinions on a lot of things.

And actually I think some of his policies should be against the law to try and condone imo, like privatising the NHS which hurts the working class, it's attacking a whole group of people which shouldn't be allowed.

Protecting the Bankers and blaming it on people on Benefits, and foreigners is very corrupt and unfair grief being given out to these two sets of people (which nobody seems to care about when he started the whole thing off in the first place) and I remember when he had someone in his party who believed in hanging people that believed in the EU.

So yes Farage and anybody in that party can get harassed if people want to as imo they've broken many laws along with the Tories if it was Russia or a Middle East country doing the same thing.

So yes people protest, although not like the Riots.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Of course it's a democracy, and it's my right to disagree with his opinions on a lot of things.

And actually I think some of his policies should be against the law to try and condone imo, like privatising the NHS which hurts the working class, it's attacking a whole group of people which shouldn't be allowed.

Protecting the Bankers and blaming it on people on Benefits, and foreigners is very corrupt and unfair grief being given out to these two sets of people (which nobody seems to care about when he started the whole thing off in the first place) and I remember when he had someone in his party who believed in hanging people that believed in the EU.

So yes Farage and anybody in that party can get harassed if people want to as imo they've broken many laws along with the Tories if it was Russia or a Middle East country doing the same thing.

So yes people protest, although not like the Riots.

You have the right to your view and clearly you strongly dislike just about all the Nigel Farage and UKIP likely stand for, what we really know of anyway as to what they stand for.

I don't agree with the attacks on him and his family while out anywhere, however, Nigel Farage by his 'foreigner; statements and blaming immigration for near all the UKs ills has helped fuel anger and suspicion against those groups of people too.
So in a subtle way, he is causing fear and concern for other groups of people by his intolerant rhetoric towards them, as you are indicating he has done too.

That equally is something that should be abhorrent to the UK.
That too however,since UKIP is identified as occupying the far right side of politics, is coming from the right and has nothing to do with left wing loonies at all.

In the late 80s,I am told, if you blamed Europe for the problems in the UK and advocated leaving Europe, you were considered dangerous and from the loony left.
Now it is the right of politics that seek or more likely want to do that,so what does that make them in that case.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Of course it's a democracy, and it's my right to disagree with his opinions on a lot of things.

And actually I think some of his policies should be against the law to try and condone imo, like privatising the NHS which hurts the working class, it's attacking a whole group of people which shouldn't be allowed.

Protecting the Bankers and blaming it on people on Benefits, and foreigners is very corrupt and unfair grief being given out to these two sets of people (which nobody seems to care about when he started the whole thing off in the first place) and I remember when he had someone in his party who believed in hanging people that believed in the EU.

So yes Farage and anybody in that party can get harassed if people want to as imo they've broken many laws along with the Tories if it was Russia or a Middle East country doing the same thing.

So yes people protest, although not like the Riots.

Lets get a few facts straight shall we?

Firstly, it was the lack of regulation and encouragement by governments that created an environment for bankers to lend as they did. Secondly, no one, and i mean no one, did more to protect the bankers than Gordon Brown and the then labour government

You are vastly exaggerating Nigel's stance on immigration. He wants controls on it ... have we forgotten so quickly Gordon Brown's famous sound byte, British jobs for British people? This was the prime minister at the time,

The purpose of a democracy is to PEACEFULLY debate and explore issues of the day, arriving at consensus which then drives future policy. Harassing those that speak out and question the current systems, is not democracy, far from it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Lets get a few facts straight shall we?

Firstly, it was the lack of regulation and encouragement by governments that created an environment for bankers to lend as they did. Secondly, no one, and i mean no one, did more to protect the bankers than Gordon Brown and the then labour government

You are vastly exaggerating Nigel's stance on immigration. He wants controls on it ... have we forgotten so quickly Gordon Brown's famous sound byte, British jobs for British people? This was the prime minister at the time,

The purpose of a democracy is to PEACEFULLY debate and explore issues of the day, arriving at consensus which then drives future policy. Harassing those that speak out and question the current systems, is not democracy, far from it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Lets get a few facts straight shall we?

Firstly, it was the lack of regulation and encouragement by governments that created an environment for bankers to lend as they did. Secondly, no one, and i mean no one, did more to protect the bankers than Gordon Brown and the then labour government

You are vastly exaggerating Nigel's stance on immigration. He wants controls on it ... have we forgotten so quickly Gordon Brown's famous sound byte, British jobs for British people? This was the prime minister at the time,

The purpose of a democracy is to PEACEFULLY debate and explore issues of the day, arriving at consensus which then drives future policy. Harassing those that speak out and question the current systems, is not democracy, far from it.

We were in a GLOBAL recession it wouldn't have mattered who was in power, we were going to struggle.
The bankers lent money they didn't have, they were bailed out because they had no money, what else could a PM do to protect the economy?

You are forgetting Farages very forgiving stance on blatant and repeated racism within his party even today he is in the news again passing racist comments off as a 'joke'..... yes, it's funny if you're a fan of bigoted 70's sitcoms maybe?

Anyone has the right to speak as and when they like against things that infringe or damage our civil liberties, the purpose of a democracy is to listen and act according to the will of the majority of the voting electorate who have cast their vote on the strength of your promises via a manifesto.... Does this happen?....no!
Politicians lie through their back teeth to get in and once in do what the eff they like, so if they can't play by the rule why the hell should anyone else?.....

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We were in a GLOBAL recession it wouldn't have mattered who was in power, we were going to struggle.
The bankers lent money they didn't have, they were bailed out because they had no money, what else could a PM do to protect the economy?

You are forgetting Farages very forgiving stance on blatant and repeated racism within his party even today he is in the news again passing racist comments off as a 'joke'..... yes, it's funny if you're a fan of bigoted 70's sitcoms maybe?

Anyone has the right to speak as and when they like against things that infringe or damage our civil liberties, the purpose of a democracy is to listen and act according to the will of the majority of the voting electorate who have cast their vote on the strength of your promises via a manifesto.... Does this happen?....no!
Politicians lie through their back teeth to get in and once in do what the eff they like, so if they can't play by the rule why the hell should anyone else?.....

Well said and had the Conservatives been in govt; the crisis could have been even worse since they under Cameron's leadership would have regulated the banks 'less' not more.

Anyone who believes that a Conservative govt; faced with a run on the banks,that they then wouldn't have bailed out the banks too as Labour decided they had to,are fooling themselves.
It may have even meant with less regulation of the banks that even more could have been needed to do so.

Farage also does invite problems, 'again I abhor the attacks on him out with his family',he does however make really stupid comments that can also inflame and invite prejudice.
He even blamed immigration for being late for a meeting in Wales a short while ago.

Perhaps were he more consistent or really revealed his true thinking,then he would either be seen for the danger he is in politics,or as I have chosen to do as to him,be dismissed as irrelevant.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We were in a GLOBAL recession it wouldn't have mattered who was in power, we were going to struggle.
The bankers lent money they didn't have, they were bailed out because they had no money, what else could a PM do to protect the economy?

You are forgetting Farages very forgiving stance on blatant and repeated racism within his party even today he is in the news again passing racist comments off as a 'joke'..... yes, it's funny if you're a fan of bigoted 70's sitcoms maybe?

Anyone has the right to speak as and when they like against things that infringe or damage our civil liberties, the purpose of a democracy is to listen and act according to the will of the majority of the voting electorate who have cast their vote on the strength of your promises via a manifesto.... Does this happen?....no!
Politicians lie through their back teeth to get in and once in do what the eff they like, so if they can't play by the rule why the hell should anyone else?.....

I don't even like Gordon Brown but to this post, you've said it all for me.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Of course it's a democracy, and it's my right to disagree with his opinions on a lot of things.

And actually I think some of his policies should be against the law to try and condone imo, like privatising the NHS which hurts the working class, it's attacking a whole group of people which shouldn't be allowed.

Protecting the Bankers and blaming it on people on Benefits, and foreigners is very corrupt and unfair grief being given out to these two sets of people (which nobody seems to care about when he started the whole thing off in the first place) and I remember when he had someone in his party who believed in hanging people that believed in the EU.

So yes Farage and anybody in that party can get harassed if people want to as imo they've broken many laws along with the Tories if it was Russia or a Middle East country doing the same thing.

So yes people protest, although not like the Riots.

you condones illegal harassment by a bunch of thugs shame on you