[joeysteele]

Is anyone else of the opinion I have at present as to the party election broadcasts,they are in my opinion dire at best.It almost leaves you wondering does any party really want to win this election.

AS for the Lib Dem one tonight, for goodness sake, moaning at the Conservatives cuts,well who has been part of this govt; voting for and supporting in parliament those cuts.
The Lib Dems cannot condemn the Conservatives ofr these cuts, none, I repeat 'none' of them could have got through parliament without the votes of the Lib Dems.

The Lib Dems for sure must think the voters are stupid and gullible if they think they can shift the blame just on the Conservatives for the cuts.
Unbelievable hypocrisy.

[Vicky.]

If jobs are being created at record pace, where are they? Still round here theres 100+ applicants for every (real) position. No as much competition for the commission only jobs though which apparently people should be snapping up.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

If jobs are being created at record pace, where are they? Still round here theres 100+ applicants for every (real) position. No as much competition for the commission only jobs though which apparently people should be snapping up.

Its getting better every day


100 Top Business Leaders today
many backed New Labour on that list
but now back the Best
Conservative

Fact

Ref: Ch4HD News Live

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Its getting better every day


100 Top Business Leaders today
many backed New Labour on that list
but now back the Best
Conservative

Fact

Ref: Ch4HD News Live

Not here, or for anyone I know. Maybe in London?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Not here, or for anyone I know. Maybe in London?

Sure more in the South
thats just one of those things
at this time

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure more in the South
thats just one of those things
at this time

No, always. Aslong as things are hunky dory in london...who gives a **** about anyone else...

[the truth]

[QUOTE=Kizzy;7674331]The people on that list have titles and peerages...who get those? Tory donors.

theres loads of labour donors too , including john Prescott who was celebrated as a hero by new labour members when he punched someone, yet Jeremy Clarkson was vilified
They've been on such a good thing with the conservatives of course they'll be loathed to see them go.

neither labour or tories have done a thing for small business, they've done nothing in fact, rates are as crazy high as always and labour councils always have more car parking charges which damage small businesses....

there is also far more money spent on speed bumps , speed cameras in labour councils.....the downside of that is the enormous damage is does to the vehicles making them more dangerous and creating enormous congestion and ruining local economies....under labour though the gap between rich and poor grew bigger than for 200 years, thus exposing them as the fake charlatans they are.

Will their shareholders want to pay out more of their lovely profits in tax and wages?
Things that actually boost the economy and not just their offshore accounts.

labour nor the tories have closed enough loop holes. but a profit is the target of all busiensses, ambition isn't wrong it should be encouraged, especially small businesses who are really struggling and offer personalised service
'Labour has hit back at a letter from more than 100 business leaders backing Conservative policies, describing it as a party political stunt and warning one of the signatories, Paul Walsh, that he could damage the political impartiality of the Confederation of British Industry if he pressed ahead with rumoured plans to become its next president.

labour can only hit back by getting 100s of businesses, small businesses to sign a petition too
The attack by Chuka Umunna, the shadow business secretary, came as the chancellor, George Osborne, hailed the letter published in the Daily Telegraph as an “unprecedented” endorsement of the economic decisions taken by the Tory government.

chukka is an idiot, hes never a straight question in his life. he should be more concerned with putting labours affairs in order and trying to figure out why they bankrupted the country again
The letter, signed by business leaders in their personal capacity, claimed that any “change in course” after the general election would threaten jobs and put the UK’s'

the economy needs to serve small business not huge corporate monopolies.
new labour privatised profits and socialized losses of corporate giants. that's simply disgusting immoral in every way. the tories have carried on. theyre as bad as each other in that regard. but new labour hammered the working man with endless stealth taxes, endless burocracy and redp tape and over 3000 new mostly petty laws....they didn't tax the rich any more until their last few months , gimmick politics to the end, shameful
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...olitical-stunt

'David Cameron has presided over an economy with the weakest productivity record of any government since the second world war, the Office for National Statistics said as it revealed output per worker fell again in the final three months of 2014.

that is interesting ill read more into that.

In a separate blow to the government, two-thirds of leading UK economists said they believed George Osborne’s austerity strategy had been bad for the economy.'

again that's worth a read. I think their biggest failure has been in not over hauling totally the local governments and how they operate. particularly how they waste deliberately in order to ensure they get the same funding next tax year....this is simply insane...prudent councils should be rewarded not wasteful ones, the opposite is now the case...so we see the roads destroyed and waste everywhere
Well.. How can this be, all these people are making lots of money and are loving conservatism but nothing is actually being generated for the economy..in fact it's worse, how can that be?

the tories have been lazy sloppy and complacent. as always they've been stuck in their Westminster bubble
Obama in America has built his economy better in many areas...hes hammered the bankers rightly but hes made enormous advacnces in the middle classes and huge advances in small business growth

THE BIGGEST CRIME OF ALL IS VAT....ITS A FCKING DISGUSTING VILE IMMORAL TOTALLY UNJUSTIFIABLE ENSLAVEMENT TAX....IT WAS MEANT TO BE A TAX ON LUXURY GOODS FOR THE RICH....BROUGHT IN BY LABOUR DOUBLED UNDER THATCHER NOW ITS 20%? THE IDIOTIC MILIBAND MISSES THE WHOLE POINT AND ASKS WILL YOU PROMOSE NOT TO RAISE VAT....WHY DIDNT HE ASK WILL YOU PROMISE TO DROP VAT? FOR ME HE LOST THE ELECTION IN THAT MOMENT.


where the tories are ahead is unemployment, gdp overall, inflation, Europe and the nhs.......the fact is they've exposed the enormous waste and corruption in the private sector which labour would always cover up to keep the unions in their pocket.id trust the tories with the nhs more than new labour.

miliband isn't the man frankly hes an idiot...which means tory coalition again

will new labour become labour by 2020 , goodness I hope so

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No, always. Aslong as things are hunky dory in london...who gives a **** about anyone else...

I need to take you and your family
to Dinner in London

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

I need to take you and your family
to Dinner in London

I have never been to london. Gav has though and says its scary, so no thanks

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I have never been to london. Gav has though and says its scary, so no thanks

Its Not Scary.
he must be pulling your leg

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Its Not Scary.
he must be pulling your leg

No, he says the only time he went...noone pays any attention to you at all. Like up here you walk past someone and smile, there they completely blank you. They constantly walk into you. The tube is horrific. Someone actually pushed his child out of the way next to a road...etc etc.

Not the kind of place I want to go to

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No, he says the only time he went...noone pays any attention to you at all. Like up here you walk past someone and smile, there they completely blank you. They constantly walk into you. The tube is horrific. Someone actually pushed his child out of the way next to a road...etc etc.

Not the kind of place I want to go to

Fair Enough
its a Very Busy City
but has some great places to eat.

[Livia]

Some of the poorest boroughs in the country are in London.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Some of the poorest boroughs in the country are in London.

Thats true as well.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No, he says the only time he went...noone pays any attention to you at all. Like up here you walk past someone and smile, there they completely blank you. They constantly walk into you. The tube is horrific. Someone actually pushed his child out of the way next to a road...etc etc.

Not the kind of place I want to go to

I really love the history of London and sightseeing there,thankfully I have friends there who I was at Uni with who I visit when I go.
However I have found it to be,and my friends do too, although a highly populated massive city, a place you can really feel alone in.

Your Gav is spot on as to it Vicky.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by arista

Thats true as well.

at least though theyre close to a thriving market place...whether they can find decent employment there is another question

[Kizzy]

I'm posting this as I think it's important to show exactly how and why a candidate has your support, not just what you read in the media.

'Edward Miliband MP, Doncaster North voted in favour of introducing a penalty regime for the general anti-abuse rule and in favour of other measures intended to reduce tax avoidance.

The majority of MPs voted against introducing a penalty regime for the general anti-abuse rule and against other measures intended to reduce tax avoidance.

The motion rejected by the majority of MPs taking part in this vote stated:

That this House
notes with concern that following the revelations of malpractice at HSBC bank, which were first given to the Government in May 2010, just one out of 1,100 people who have avoided or evaded tax have been prosecuted;
calls upon Lord Green and the Prime Minister to make a full statement about Lord Green’s role at HSBC and his appointment as a Minister;
regrets the failure of the Government’s deal on tax disclosure with Switzerland, which has raised less than a third of the amount promised by Ministers;
welcomes the proposals of charities and campaigning organisations for an anti-tax dodging Bill; and
further calls on the Government to clamp down on tax avoidance by introducing a penalty regime for the general anti-abuse rule, which is currently too weak to be effective, closing the Quoted Eurobonds exemption loophole, ensuring that hedge funds trading shares pay the same amount of tax as other investors, introducing deeming criteria to restrict false self-employment in the construction industry, and scrapping the shares for rights scheme, which the Office for Budget Responsibility has warned could cost Ł1 billion in avoidance.'

What is the 'shares for rights' scheme?..... oh dear....isn't this what happened before the royal mail sell off, they gave posties a few shares for their workers rights and then privatised it ensuring nobody had the right to a full redundancy package or pension?

'Businesses will be allowed to remove "gold-plated employment rights" in exchange for handing out shares to employees which will be exempt from tax, George Osborne has said.'

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-rights-scheme

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/divisio...&house=commons

[Kizzy]

'The tax scandal uncovered at HSBC is one that even the most imaginative conspiracy theorist would struggle to concoct. The Swiss arm of Europe’s largest bank is accused of having colluded with wealthy clients for years to allow them to shield undeclared accounts from their domestic authorities. Detailed information was passed to HMRC in 2010; 1,100 British citizens are thought to have been involved.
Five years later, just one prosecution has resulted. Contrast that with the 1,046,398 sanctions, or financial penalties, imposed on Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants in 2013, or the nearly 200,000 prosecutions of people who failed to buy a television licence. As the tax campaigner Richard Murphy put it: “To the wealthiest criminals and their assistants within the financial system go the rewards and the plaudits. To everyone else goes intimidation and persecution.”

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...must-be-closed

[Jřsh]

This is a General Election that is splitting up EVERYONE.
I bet will it go on for a 5 Day fudge like the pathetic new Labour Brown did..

(Thanks for arista for helping me with the post!)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I got my voting card today!

[arista]

Originally Posted by ThisIsJosh

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will it go on for a 5 Day Fudge like
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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Youtube video

Brilliant ploy

get an actor who is a millionaire and is rarely in the UK to pretend to be working class and normal and tell people who are not rich to do something that he has been told to say


that is pure dead brilliant

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

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This is a General Election
that is splitting up everyone
will it go on for a 5 Day Fudge like
Pathetic New Labour Brown did

With respect, will you be saying that in the case of another hung parliament if David Cameron stays in Downing Street for the time he needs until it is clear whether he can form any kind of govt; or not.

The present PM cannot really resign until there is a govt; that can be recommended to the Queen.
Until it was clear that Cameron had the support of the Lib Dems in 2010, there was no way he could be sent for to attempt to form a govt;

That could easily be the same situation that Cameron could find himself in until it is clear if Labour can then form a govt; with overall majority support from one or more than one other party.
That is what 'has' to happen in such occurrences.

[Jack.]

So annoyed that the general election is on the 7th and I'm 18 on the 8th

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Jack.

So annoyed that the general election is on the 7th and I'm 18 on the 8th

I would be sooooo annoyed omg