[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I haven't said anything bad about men, why would you think that? I have a son, a husband and 3 brothers, I don't hate men at all

you've said nothing to help them....as a mother id have thought youd be more passionate about fighting male suicide male mortality rates, men losing their children etc doesn't this concern you? I don't hate women despite your pernicious comments.. I do hate the way some behave , how little support they give men , how little they speak up for mens rights too , how unaccountable many are and how there are so many double standards

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you've said nothing to help them....as a mother id have thought youd be more passionate about fighting male suicide male mortality rates, men losing their children etc doesn't this concern you? I don't hate women despite your pernicious comments.. I do hate the way some behave , how little support they give men , how little they speak up for mens rights too , how unaccountable many are and how there are so many double standards

But you do generalise a lot about women in a very negative way which is the reason I think you hate women. You say I'm not concerned about family law concerning men yet if you scroll back through this thread you'll see you're forgetting that I agreed with you about that. My issue with how you approach the subject is that you seem to be blaming women solely for both this and male suicide rates when surely it's everyone's problem where this is concerned? Especially the countries governments and law makers

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But you do generalise a lot about women in a very negative way which is the reason I think you hate women. You say I'm not concerned about family law concerning men yet if you scroll back through this thread you'll see you're forgetting that I agreed with you about that. My issue with how you approach the subject is that you seem to be blaming women solely for both this and male suicide rates when surely it's everyone's problem where this is concerned? Especially the countries governments and law makers

im talking about this country, though America and western sociesties seem to all have similar problems.......men have almost no male school teachers in junior school and none in infants....with no fathers millions have no male role model at all......women are frankly brainwashing kids into this mass feminist doctrine of male hate. its not only factually inaccurate, revisionist biased retelling of history. but its divisive and riddle with hate and lies. do I generalise , well yes, because ive barely met a woman alive who doesn't agree with the feminist movement and no women in power are doing a damn thing for men, especially suicidal men. as ive stated many times, men are not allowed to speak out or they will be wrongly labelled sexist mysoginist pigs..at which point they lose their jobs careers incomes homes and their kids and their families....im afraid this is the fate that awaits more and more men. men aren't allowed to do anything about it and women cant be bothered to do anything about it, so itll get worse and worse

[Ammi]

..you're right, truth..this is a serious issue and something that should be addressed but you're somehow laying blame or cause to be with females..?..and the statistics don't say that..

Prof Louis Appleby, the chair of the National Suicide Prevention Advisory Group in England, said: “Men are more at risk of suicide because they are more likely to drink heavily, use self-harm methods that are more often fatal and are reluctant to seek help.

“Fifteen years ago the rates among men under 35 were brought down sharply by tackling these problems and we need to use this success to address the problems of the new highest risk group, middle-aged men.

...I do agree that with divorce/separation issues, fathers can often get a fairly rough deal but fathers can also leave their children so it's not a general thing..as can mothers leave their children as well..I had a friend/a female who committed suicide not that long ago and it made me aware of how little help and support there is in this country for mental health issues..I think that's something that has just got progressively worse and is in itself at crisis point or becoming so...I think that's where the focus should be with this and speaking to MPs etc about it and trying to raise awareness that this just can't go on...


..yeah, sometimes males get a bad deal in some areas and sometimes females get a bad deal in others, it really isn't a general thing with one sex or another...but really I do understand your frustration and there are so many areas with mental health issues that should be looked at..why not take those frustrations and the points you make and try to have them heard by the people who have the power to look at these problems/use them to raise awareness ....