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I don't see why it can't go ahead, Saviles did... Just because he's now infirm doesn't mean it didn't happen, I say the victims deserve this to be heard.
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If he has dementia as bad as indicated then a trial is not worth it. However, we had the famous Guinness man who made a remarkable recovery, so it is a ploy that successfully worked before. I would like to see a truly independent thorough examination and confirmation before any case like this is abandoned
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If he has dementia as bad as indicated then a trial is not worth it. However, we had the famous Guinness man who made a remarkable recovery, so it is a ploy that successfully worked before. I would like to see a truly independent thorough examination and confirmation before any case like this is abandoned
I agree here. An impartial, thorough assessment.
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If he has dementia as bad as indicated then a trial is not worth it. However, we had the famous Guinness man who made a remarkable recovery, so it is a ploy that successfully worked before. I would like to see a truly independent thorough examination and confirmation before any case like this is abandoned
2 of the Doctors official medical reports were ordered and actioned by the DPP to be done before the DPP went about deciding if he could stand trial and understand what was going on as to court proceedings.

Those medical reports confirmed the other 2 from other Doctors,,there are 4 reports in all,even stating he would not be able to even instruct his lawyers

He was independently examined and assessed and sadly at this point in time,as I am sure you know already, dementia cannot be reversed or for that matter improved.
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2 of the Doctors official medical reports were ordered and actioned by the DPP to be done before the DPP went about deciding if he could stand trial and understand what was going on as to court proceedings.

Those medical reports confirmed the other 2 from other Doctors,,there are 4 reports in all,even stating he would not be able to even instruct his lawyers

He was independently examined and assessed and sadly at this point in time,as I am sure you know already, dementia cannot be reversed or for that matter improved.
Very informative Joey, Thank you.
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2 of the Doctors official medical reports were ordered and actioned by the DPP to be done before the DPP went about deciding if he could stand trial and understand what was going on as to court proceedings.

Those medical reports confirmed the other 2 from other Doctors,,there are 4 reports in all,even stating he would not be able to even instruct his lawyers

He was independently examined and assessed and sadly at this point in time,as I am sure you know already, dementia cannot be reversed or for that matter improved.

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I don't see why it can't go ahead, Saviles did... Just because he's now infirm doesn't mean it didn't happen, I say the victims deserve this to be heard.

Yes the Police Chief said that as well
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I don't see why it can't go ahead, Saviles did... Just because he's now infirm doesn't mean it didn't happen, I say the victims deserve this to be heard.
It can't go ahead for the reasons stated in Joey's post, this is my second time posting this as the first one was removed due to my alleged insulting language.
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It can't go ahead for the reasons stated in Joey's post, this is my second time posting this as the first one was removed due to my alleged insulting language.
Then wait till the old pervert is dead and have one... what's the problem, why does it have to be swept under the carpet because the dirty old man has lost his marbles?
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Then wait till the old pervert is dead and have one... what's the problem, why does it have to be swept under the carpet because the dirty old man has lost his marbles?
It isn't going to be swept under the carpet Kizzy, the DPP was on the news tonight and said a mechanism is in place where the victims can get their stories/allegations publicly aired as in an inquiry.

There was no court case for Jimmy Saville,there was and still is inquiries going on as to his hospital crimes but there will be no court case.

The same with this guy, since he is now unable to understand what would be going on and cannot even be interviewed either as there would be no point.
No punishment or sentence would be able to be given, hence no prosecution.

She did state,an outlet would be there for the victims to state their issues,likely publicly if they wished it so but that is as far as it can go if someone cannot understand what is going on around them.
You have to be able to hear both sides in a court to make a judgement,that is impossible to do in this case.
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It isn't going to be swept under the carpet Kizzy, the DPP was on the news tonight and said a mechanism is in place where the victims can get their stories/allegations publicly aired as in an inquiry.

There was no court case for Jimmy Saville,there was and still is inquiries going on as to his hospital crimes but there will be no court case.

The same with this guy, since he is now unable to understand what would be going on and cannot even be interviewed either as there would be no point.
No punishment or sentence would be able to be given, hence no prosecution.

She did state,an outlet would be there for the victims to state their issues,likely publicly if they wished it so but that is as far as it can go if someone cannot understand what is going on around them.
You have to be able to hear both sides in a court to make a judgement,that is impossible to do in this case.
That's good then, an inquiry or whatever just something to air what the grievances are against this man and anyone else involved in the previous investigations in the 90s.
Why has it taken so long? It's so frustrating that these people manage to slither under the radar and evade paying for their crimes while hiding behind a false facade of respectability as part of the establishment.
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That's good then, an inquiry or whatever just something to air what the grievances are against this man and anyone else involved in the previous investigations in the 90s.
Why has it taken so long? It's so frustrating that these people manage to slither under the radar and evade paying for their crimes while hiding behind a false facade of respectability as part of the establishment.
I'm pretty sure this is going to be revelation year in this respect. Unfortunately, because it has gone so high up the chain, we have had to wait until the people are so old/dead that they can no longer influence the decision makers, and so the information comes out. We may already be shocked, but I bet there are some very big names yet to come out.
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I'm pretty sure this is going to be revelation year in this respect. Unfortunately, because it has gone so high up the chain, we have had to wait until the people are so old/dead that they can no longer influence the decision makers, and so the information comes out. We may already be shocked, but I bet there are some very big names yet to come out.
I totally agree, I just hope they do come out and aren't shielded as they have been. Those making the laws given free reign to break them? blurgh!
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