[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think I am saying there will be a Labour victory,I do see the likelihood of a minority Labour govt,supported as a govt; by the SNP, Plaid Cymru,The Greens and the SDLP from Northern Ireland.

All those parties have declared their intention to keep the Conservatives out.
There was no swing back to the govt; in 2010 to Labour, there was also a swing away from the Labour govt; in 2005 too to the opposition.

The Conservatives were expected to win in Feb 1974 but there was no swing to them there, it went to the Labour opposition and even further back to 1970, the surprise of the decade was a major swing against the Labour govt; resulting in a Conservative victory.

Fine, you ignore all the polling but you cannot say there even looks like a swing looming to the present govt;
You also have nothing to back up your points that Labour are down on where they were in 2010 and the Conservatives not.

I am not getting angry at all, I was just pointing out all the data there is as to past elections and what is being said as to this one.
You are the one with little 'facts',not me and as I have listed above, there is not always a swing back to the govt; really.

As you say let's wait and see but I am pretty sure on the day, the Conservatives will have les seats and votes than they did in 2010 and Labour will have more seats and votes than they did in 2010.
However if you challenge others facts,you do need to have substance behind your challenge to be fair and with respect.

The bookies seem to agree with you Joey; a Labour minority government is bookie's favourite by enough of a margin to at least be a strong indicator IMO. Labour minority sitting around 6/4, Tory minority around 3/1. By no means a certainty, obviously. All other options are quite a bit further out.

Most heartening, of course, is seeing "any coalition involving UKIP" sitting away out at around 25/1. whew.

[arista]

The SNP Queen is Live on all media now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Main pledges

Modest spending increase of 0.5% a year, enabling £140bn extra investment

Annual UK target of 100,000 affordable homes

Increase in minimum wage to £8.70 by 2020

Restore the 50p top income tax rate for those earning more than £150,000; introduce a mansion tax and a bankers' bonus tax

Build an alliance against the renewal of Trident

Repatriate any English folks living in Scotland

Retain the triple lock on pensions

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2...tland-32372084

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Main pledges

Modest spending increase of 0.5% a year, enabling £140bn extra investment

Annual UK target of 100,000 affordable homes

Increase in minimum wage to £8.70 by 2020

Restore the 50p top income tax rate for those earning more than £150,000; introduce a mansion tax and a bankers' bonus tax

Build an alliance against the renewal of Trident

Repatriate any English folks living in Scotland

Retain the triple lock on pensions

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2...tland-32372084

Hang on....

[MTVN]

Jeremy Browne tearing into the SNP on Daily Politics

Funny how desperate the SNP are to have Scotland free from any outside governance or rule by Westminster and yet they are pledging to vote on English-only issues which have nothing to do with Scotland - repealing the Health and Social care act, backing HS2, changing tuition fees in England etc.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Jeremy Browne tearing into the SNP on Daily Politics

Funny how desperate the SNP are to have Scotland free from any outside governance or rule by Westminster and yet they are pledging to vote on English-only issues which have nothing to do with Scotland - repealing the Health and Social care act, backing HS2, changing tuition fees in England etc.

FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOMMME

YA BAWBAGS

[Crimson Dynamo]

[MTVN]

Labour should call the SNP's bluff. No coalition, no arrangement, put forward their own Queen's speech and the SNP either support it or they vote it down and allow the Tories in and that's on them.

[Josy]

More bull**** from Nicola and her over inflated over publicised ego

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

More bull**** from Nicola and her over inflated over publicised ego

Look Josy



Embrace your Queen

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Jeremy Browne tearing into the SNP on Daily Politics

Funny how desperate the SNP are to have Scotland free from any outside governance or rule by Westminster and yet they are pledging to vote on English-only issues which have nothing to do with Scotland - repealing the Health and Social care act, backing HS2, changing tuition fees in England etc.

but he is LibDemy


Labour is now getting ready to deal with
Josy's Queen

[Josy]

Originally Posted by arista

Look Josy



Embrace your Queen

Don't be silly Arista, the queen isnt involved in this election, you are getting confused there pal.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

Don't be silly Arista, the queen isnt involved in this election, you are getting confused there pal.

No

Nicola its like the Scottish Queen

[Crimson Dynamo]

Spoiler:

[arista]

"Marydoll Queen of Scots"


Thats it LT
perfect for 32" LG HD monitor

[kirklancaster]

"Quuen of Scots"? She reminds me of Jeannette Krankie.... "Fantabidozzie"

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Queen of Scots?

She reminds me of Jeannette Krankie.... "Fantabidozzie"

No that was years ago


She is now the Scottish Queen
ready to Destroy the Labour deal

[Josy]

Weird that you like her so much Arista, when she hates the English so much

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

Weird that you like her so much Arista, when she hates the English so much

But I love the Fact
that SNP kills Scottish Labour MP's


Thats Utter Bliss

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

"Quuen of Scots"? She reminds me of Jeannette Krankie.... "Fantabidozzie"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

Weird that you like her so much Arista, when she hates the English so much

no she does not hate them


she pities them

[joeysteele]

The launch of the SNP manifesto just shows how easily Labour and the SNP could come to an arrangement.

It is also hardly surprising that since 45% of Scots voted for independence and came so close to getting it too, that they will now support the SNP in all elections.

My hope is for Labour to do really good in England,the East and West Midlands being a possible difficulty for them.
If that can be achieved in the end,then David Cameron and his rather nasty brand of Conservatives will be gone.

I was in the West Midlands briefly yesterday,near my home area too, it was much harder going as to labour I admit,however I found no love for the Conservatives really either.
It's always hard however to work out what may happen in the Midlands.

[arista]

But Joey
Labour does not want the SNP

[joeysteele]

Labour, Conservative, Lib Dems, SNP, UKIP, PC, Geens, DUP, SinnFeinn,in fact all parties don't want any of the others.
However, come the election result,then the realities of the consequences of that result will be obvious.

Whether it is wanted or not, if a party is serious about governing the UK, it will need others to make that possible.
Not wanting them but having to accept them and work together for a time.

You know what, were the SNP open to working with either main party, the Conservatives would be crawling up to them to get some deal too.
All that is wrong with the Conservatives is the SNP have told them clearly to ....., well you know what it is,I won't say it or near describe it.

Whatever is said before May 8th by all the parties,is likely nothing like what will be the reality and what has to be said and done once the full result of the election is known.

As a Labour supporter now myself,I for sure want the SNP and I am finding more and more people every day that also do too.

[MTVN]

A poll has found that the majority of British voters do not want Nicola Sturgeon (54%) or the SNP (59%) to play a role in the next government.

Just 19% said they would like to see the SNP play a part and 22% Ms Sturgeon.

The survey by ComRes for ITV News found that the Liberal Democrats were the most popular choice to act as coalition partners alongside one of the two big parties. Some 36% of those questioned said they would like to see the Lib Dems participate in a new coalition and 31% said the same of their leader, Mr Clegg.

However, 44% said Mr Clegg should have no role and 40% did not want the Lib Dems in government.

ComRes interviewed 2,048 British adults online between April 17 and 19.

Damn right