[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I can't believe this happens in this day and age. I'm a gay man. Here in Ireland we have a vote for gay rights coming up in May. For me personally I hope it gets put into law. I hate being treated like a second class citizen over who I decide to kiss or sleep with. It's disgusting.

No one ANYWHERE should EVER be treated any differently because they are 'Gay' - man or woman - especially by any Religion.

Outside of these Islamic Fundamentalist killers, I truly believe that the day will come when gays are not discriminated against by any government or institution, and I believe that that day will be sooner rather than later.

Individual bigots here and there may take longer to become 'enlightened' but
they'll be few and far between and subject to the law, so I can't see any real problems.

For me - I actually prefer the company of my gay friends and always have done.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I can't believe this happens in this day and age. I'm a gay man. Here in Ireland we have a vote for gay rights coming up in May. For me personally I hope it gets put into law. I hate being treated like a second class citizen over who I decide to kiss or sleep with. It's disgusting.

I don't feel things like that should ever be put to a vote. Especially these days, I thought we (as a species) had come further than that

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't feel things like that should ever be put to a vote. Especially these days, I thought we (as a species) had come further than that

exactly. the majority should never be allowed to decide what civil rights the minority should have. its not a fair fight.

[bots]

Originally Posted by lostalex

exactly. the majority should never be allowed to decide what civil rights the minority should have. its not a fair fight.

Well there has to be a start point doesn't there. The reason that laws needed to be introduced was that people were being discriminated against and laws were needed to ensure that no longer happened. There would only have been no need for the law if people hadn't been discriminated against in the first place, and with people being who they are,that was never going to happen. So the majority rule is a much needed necessity.

[GypsyGoth]

These savages and their caliphates are like a cancer on this world.

[Kizzy]

I don't think that many brits would know one end of a gospel from another. This is not to say this behaviour isn't shockingly horrific.

[Kyle]

What a horrible way to go as well.

Sick ****'s.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You make up a all seeing all knowing all powerful boss and guess what you justify anythi g in his name because being made up

there is no come back

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You make up a all seeing all knowing all powerful boss and guess what you justify anythi g in his name because being made up

there is no come back

Mate it will do you no harm to leave out the religion bashing every once in a while.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Mate it will do you no harm to leave out the religion bashing every once in a while.

Kyle mate - You might as well tell a politician to tell the truth.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Kyle mate - You might as well tell a politician to tell the truth.

what do you want me to tell him?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

what do you want me to tell him?

To depart rapidly in jerky movements while breathing heavy - or in Yorkshire speak; Feck Off heathen.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Mate it will do you no harm to leave out the religion bashing every once in a while.

well i do in non-religion threads but its kind of hard on one where religion is used as an excuse to kill people

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well i do in non-religion threads but its kind of hard on one where religion is used as an excuse to kill people

Are you telling porkies LT?

[Kizzy]

So that's immigration, foreign policy and now religion that can't be discussed in serious debates... what isn't taboo and allowed?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So that's immigration, foreign policy and now religion that can't be discussed in serious debates... what isn't taboo and allowed?

Homoerotic fanfiction.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Mate it will do you no harm to leave out the religion bashing every once in a while.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So that's immigration, foreign policy and now religion that can't be discussed in serious debates... what isn't taboo and allowed?

let me just give you two teaspoons of context with your tea mi lady

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kyle

let me just give you two teaspoons of context with your tea mi lady

No fanks, I like to decide on context.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No fanks, I like to decide on context.

This is why I can't open my heart to women

[Kizzy]

Is that what you get from that comment as I really couldn't fathom it

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is that what you get from that comment as I really couldn't fathom it

You really can't fathom much from what I write can you? Which makes the facts that I have won several writing awards and sold and had published numerous short stories and articles, and used to write essays and articles for my local Labour Party (when I was younger and naive) all the more perplexing. Oh, not to mention very near misses with two TV Drama scripts.

I guess that there's no other option for me but to enrol in a Basic English class at my local college.

Oh well.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You really can't fathom much from what I write can you? Which makes the facts that I have won several writing awards and sold and had published numerous short stories and articles, and used to write essays and articles for my local Labour Party (when I was younger and naive) all the more perplexing. Oh, not to mention very near misses with two TV Drama scripts.

I guess that there's no other option for me but to enrol in a Basic English class at my local college.

Oh well.

Originally Posted by Livia View Post
I think the English church is more guided by the gospels of Jesus than the book of Deuteronomy.
You are Sooooo wise Liv, but you know that you cannot educate pork.

It's just the phrase 'cannot educate pork' I struggle with, if you could explain that for me please?

[empire]

and all these gay rights groups, attack nigel farage and his party, but they don't want to say anything about this, hypocrisy that they clam,

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by empire

and all these gay rights groups, attack nigel farage and his party, but they don't want to say anything about this, hypocrisy that they clam,

Not a lot they can say, it's not their country.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Not a lot they can say, it's not their country.

That's true Kyle - and in the next 30 to 50 years or less, this one will be too, so there will be nothing they can say then.