[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

There are a myriad of agencies in this country helping people in need. I'm not saying everything is perfectf, obviously it's not - far from it, but to compare it with the 1940s, when we were at war and when we were immediately post-war, continues to be one of the more ridiculous discussions on this forum.

Again the study is concerned with attitudinal change in the general population not what help is and isn't available Why when there are a million people relying on foodbanks these agencies aren't acting as a safety net?
It's not ridiculous Livia, it's very apt due to the widening social gap.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Again the study is concerned with attitudinal change in the general population not what help is and isn't available Why when there are a million people relying on foodbanks these agencies aren't acting as a safety net?
It's not ridiculous Livia, it's very apt due to the widening social gap.

A million people? One in sixty? I doubt it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

A million people? One in sixty? I doubt it.

Considering you can visit a food bank 3 times even if these visits are based on that it's anything upwards of 333,333 if that is more acceptable.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Considering you can visit a food bank 3 times even if these visits are based on that it's anything upwards of 333,333 if that is more acceptable.

The wording is usage of over 1,000,000, not just one million actually.It exceeded 1,000,000 in figures out near 2 weeks ago.
People do use them sometimes once, twice and up to 3 times.

Foodbanks can at present only be a temporary measure and it is all donated voluntarily from the kindness of other shoppers in the main.

The point is that anyone needing foodbanks at all in the 21st century in the UK should make the UK powers that be feel really ashamed, it is beyond defending that anyone has to be so down, to have to rely on them in any shape or form.

Volunteers at them are worn out with the ever growing numbers of different people and you have to realise,someone using them up to 3 times, means after them it is near always new people using them afterwards.

Also, even at 1,000,000 usage, if it was assumed and we don't know,that this was in effect something like 334,000 actual people using them, that is still an almightly disgrace and should be a universal massive condemnation of this govt; that has let this happen over the last 5 years alone too.

The cry that Labour had foodbanks too gets made, well fair enough but then that would also need counter balancing, if we all accepted it is 334,000 people with 1,000,000 usage now.
Then as to Labour,who by 2010 had something like only 45,000 usage, that would mean only 15,000 people using them by the same token.

It does not alter in any way, the justified criticism as to this heartless lot as to a massive rise in foodbanks usage over just 5 years.
Labour's figure of 45,000 was at the end of 13 years of govt;,not just 5 years,where this present gov't has seen the figures soar to over 1,000,000.

Or assuming it is people rather than usage, Labour's figure of 15,000 after 13 years of govt; as opposed to the Conservative led govt;of 5 years taking it from 15,000 to 334,000,well over a quarter of a million at least, in that very short time.
Not a statistic I would like a party I supported to have as a fact.

Foodbanks shouldn't exist in the UK at all and if the Conservative party win this election,with their unspecified extra welfare cuts to come of around 10 billion, they have only told us 2 billion so far.
Then foodbanks and I feel sure those in poverty will see numbers soaring like never before,likely eclipsing the numbers rise of just the last 5 years.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why when there are a million people relying on foodbanks these agencies aren't acting as a safety net?

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Considering you can visit a food bank 3 times even if these visits are based on that it's anything upwards of 333,333 if that is more acceptable.

Wow. that's a drop isn't it. From 1 person in 60 using a food bank to 1 person in 180.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Wow. that's a drop isn't it. From 1 person in 60 using a food bank to 1 person in 180.

That isn't the figure though Livia, some people only use it once or twice.
For me in any event, even a quarter of a million plus by a good margin is way too many and is a disgrace.
Nothing at all for the UK to be proud of.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Wow. that's a drop isn't it. From 1 person in 60 using a food bank to 1 person in 180.

nope, 333,333 is the figure if 1 person used the foodbank 3 times based on 1 million visits. I really hope we don't have to visit this issue again as it's in danger of derailing the thread.