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I will,these people being interviewed seem a bit scared that Cameron is not arse creeping up to anyone,lol
They also forget what a mess Labour left him in when he took over.
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They also forget what a mess Labour left him in when he took over.
Lets hope the voters don't.
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They both got a mauling, the people of Leeds... brutal
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Teflon dave wins again :/ unbelievable.
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They both got a mauling, the people of Leeds... brutal
I thought you might have gone there Kizzy,i missed Cameron and Milliband,but saw Clegg,he came across awfully I thought.
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Not much at all between Miliband and Cameron to be fair to both,they both handled the questioning well but again as for the undecided,I heard nothing as to any important details again.

One highlight for me would be the man who asked Clegg, had a new job lined up for next friday.
I voted for Clegg in 2010,I am still as furious with him as those in that audience tonight.
He had the star billing, last on,yet just failed to connect,I think Paul Nuttall for UKIP is right, when he indicated when interviewed afterwards,that the Lib Dems will be hammered in the polls on May 7th.

He just doesn't get the scale of his broken tuition fees promise and more to the point signed pledge.
His policy was to abolish them, the Conservatives plan was to at least double them.
He swore blind he would never support them being doubled.

Coalition is about compromise,or should be,how a policy to abolish something, as opposed to at least doubling the cost of them,suddenly then becomes voting to 'treble' them, is beyond me completely.
That is the anger from his past supporters that he never addresses or answers.

They pundits have it wrong on Ed Miliband and post election deals, he will not do any deal with the SNP, given the chance however, he will set out a Queens' speech and present it to parliament.
The SNP then either have to accept it with no conditions or risk a Conservative led govt; instead.
If the SNP then also vote down a Conservative Queen's speech, there will need to be another general election.
Scotland would likely be furious with the SNP for again risking a Conservative led govt; which could mean a whole different result in another election.
I believe, if he has the chance to, Ed Miliband will call their bluff and risk the SNP voting him down.
He doesn't change his mind easily,even it would make his life easier as a politician.

As for his lost footing,I really smiled at that, I recalled at Uni when I was doing a presentation,someone behind me moved my chair back, when I had finished,I made to sit back down and landed on the floor.
A human moment a bit of a shock but I got top marks for the presentation.

David Cameron,being fair to him engaged well but again like the others answered really nothing.
I think a fair few parents who are undecided as to voting, will have great concerns at his very vague dealing with cutting child benefit as to yay or nay.
His best performance so far in the campaign to be fair but really, people need to be told clearly where those 10 billion of welfare cuts are going to be made.

They learned not a thing as to any of that tonight and yet he says, he has seen the books, so he is the one person who should be able to clearly spell out on what and who, the axe will fall over the next few years again as to the most vulnerable.

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Ed nearly falling as he walked off
Oh that was awful.It summed him up perfectly.If anyone was gonna do that it was Ed
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Not much at all between Miliband and Cameron to be fair to both,they both handled the questioning well but again as for the undecided,I heard nothing as to any important details again.

One highlight for me would be the man who asked Clegg, had a new job lined up for next friday.
I voted for Clegg in 2010,I am still as furious with him as those in that audience tonight.
He had the star billing, last on,yet just failed to connect,I think Paul Nuttall for UKIP is right, when he indicated when interviewed afterwards,that the Lib Dems will be hammered in the polls on May 7th.

He just doesn't get the scale of his broken tuition fees promise and more to the point signed pledge.
His policy was to abolish them, the Conservatives plan was to at least double them.
He swore blind he would never support them being doubled.

Coalition is about compromise,or should be,how a policy to abolish something, as opposed to at least doubling the cost of them,suddenly then becomes voting to 'treble' them, is beyond me completely.
That is the anger from his past supporters that he never addresses or answers.

They pundits have it wrong on Ed Miliband and post election deals, he will not do any deal with the SNP, given the chance however, he will set out a Queens' speech and present it to parliament.
The SNP then either have to accept it with no conditions or risk a Conservative led govt; instead.
If the SNP then also vote down a Conservative Queen's speech, there will need to be another general election.
Scotland would likely be furious with the SNP for again risking a Conservative led govt; which could mean a whole different result in another election.
I believe, if he has the chance to, Ed Miliband will call their bluff and risk the SNP voting him down.
He doesn't change his mind easily,even it would make his life easier as a politician.

As for his lost footing,I really smiled at that, I recalled at Uni when I was doing a presentation,someone behind me moved my chair back, when I had finished,I made to sit back down and landed on the floor.
A human moment a bit of a shock but I got top marks for the presentation.

David Cameron,being fair to him engaged well but again like the others answered really nothing.
I think a fair few parents who are undecided as to voting, will have great concerns at his very vague dealing with cutting child benefit as to yay or nay.
His best performance so far in the campaign to be fair but really, people need to be told clearly where those 10 billion of welfare cuts are going to be made.

They learned not a thing as to any of that tonight and yet he says, he has seen the books, so he is the one person who should be able to clearly spell out on what and who, the axe will fall over the next few years again as to the most vulnerable.
The first one of Ed or David to spell out exactly what they will do after the election is the first one that will hand it on a plate to the opposing party. These cuts/tax rises are not going to sit well with the electorate and they both know it.
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I thought you might have gone there Kizzy,i missed Cameron and Milliband,but saw Clegg,he came across awfully I thought.
I applied but didn't hear anything :/ Oof it's repeated on sunday catch it if you can kaz they got savaged
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Not much at all between Miliband and Cameron to be fair to both,they both handled the questioning well but again as for the undecided,I heard nothing as to any important details again.

One highlight for me would be the man who asked Clegg, had a new job lined up for next friday.
I voted for Clegg in 2010,I am still as furious with him as those in that audience tonight.
He had the star billing, last on,yet just failed to connect,I think Paul Nuttall for UKIP is right, when he indicated when interviewed afterwards,that the Lib Dems will be hammered in the polls on May 7th.

He just doesn't get the scale of his broken tuition fees promise and more to the point signed pledge.
His policy was to abolish them, the Conservatives plan was to at least double them.
He swore blind he would never support them being doubled.

Coalition is about compromise,or should be,how a policy to abolish something, as opposed to at least doubling the cost of them,suddenly then becomes voting to 'treble' them, is beyond me completely.
That is the anger from his past supporters that he never addresses or answers.

They pundits have it wrong on Ed Miliband and post election deals, he will not do any deal with the SNP, given the chance however, he will set out a Queens' speech and present it to parliament.
The SNP then either have to accept it with no conditions or risk a Conservative led govt; instead.
If the SNP then also vote down a Conservative Queen's speech, there will need to be another general election.
Scotland would likely be furious with the SNP for again risking a Conservative led govt; which could mean a whole different result in another election.
I believe, if he has the chance to, Ed Miliband will call their bluff and risk the SNP voting him down.
He doesn't change his mind easily,even it would make his life easier as a politician.

As for his lost footing,I really smiled at that, I recalled at Uni when I was doing a presentation,someone behind me moved my chair back, when I had finished,I made to sit back down and landed on the floor.
A human moment a bit of a shock but I got top marks for the presentation.

David Cameron,being fair to him engaged well but again like the others answered really nothing.
I think a fair few parents who are undecided as to voting, will have great concerns at his very vague dealing with cutting child benefit as to yay or nay.
His best performance so far in the campaign to be fair but really, people need to be told clearly where those 10 billion of welfare cuts are going to be made.

They learned not a thing as to any of that tonight and yet he says, he has seen the books, so he is the one person who should be able to clearly spell out on what and who, the axe will fall over the next few years again as to the most vulnerable.
it was another waste of time for everyone....when will the dimblebys ever learn, fewer question more depth
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it was another waste of time for everyone....when will the dimblebys ever learn, fewer question more depth
I agree in the main, it was good to see Clegg get a hard time however,for me anyway.
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The first one of Ed or David to spell out exactly what they will do after the election is the first one that will hand it on a plate to the opposing party. These cuts/tax rises are not going to sit well with the electorate and they both know it.
You are right and it is really irritating potential voters,I have a feeling the turnout could be pretty bad this time around.
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farage is hitting it out of the ball park on his half hour...hes just soo damn right about Europe....can you name the European leader? why are we putting in billions most than almost everyone els...whycant we sell to Europeans nations if were not in the eu? blackmail?
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farage is hitting it out of the ball park on his half hour...hes just soo damn right about Europe....can you name the European leader? why are we putting in billions most than almost everyone els...whycant we sell to Europeans nations if were not in the eu? blackmail?
Farage is having a cracker on this.Making Dave and Millibland look like amateurs.
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Farage is having a cracker on this.Making Dave and Millibland look like amateurs.
hes brilliant.....his answer to the taking African aid was incredible.....it went something like "the whole EU cartel is stitching up African, were blocking them from trading were stealing from their shores were stopping them becoming economically active and were then giving them foreign aid (which goes to dictators) just to look good and camouflage the neo colonialist EU policies than keep Africa poor, even though we cant afford it"

he mentioned 9000 ex service people living on the streets and offered more money for them

he again mentioned british people with aids have to wait longer and longer

he mentioned health tourists medical insurance being unclaimed by the nhs costs us over a billion pounds a year....INSANE...a doctor backed up what he said very clearly. we have fewer gp's per capita than any other country in Europe...health card is an option....better still anyone who applies for a visa as in usa and Australia etc has to have healthcare insurance..he wants the nhs run publicly...smoking ban...its allowed at the business discretion to offer smoking rooms as in germany

population in the uk has grown 10 million in 20 years and weve don't nothing to build an nhs that can take care of an extra 10 million (that's 2 x the population of Scotland)
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Teflon dave wins again :/ unbelievable.
Marginally,only by 44% to 38%, with Clegg lagging well behind.

On balance I would have put them both around the same really,no real runaway winner.
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miliband is just sooo weak. his answers are so shallow...I mean his answer to everything is what? minimum wage zero hours and mansion tax? nothing on industries, nothing on waste, nothing for small businesses, nothing on town centres, nothing on vat falling, nothing on the roads, the wasteful corrupt councils, nothing on the nhs failings and massive middle management on enormous salaries, nothing on the eu constitution, nothing on the collapse of these many retail monopolies, nothing on endless steal taxes , illegal wars etc etc nothing...just the same innane repeated meaningless catchphrases..the man is pathetic
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Marginally,only by 44% to 38%, with Clegg lagging well behind.

On balance I would have put them both around the same really,no real runaway winner.
I agree, the audience were really hostile it was really odd... And strangely confident, they were monologuing and challenging answers like it was second nature

It's a mystery why cameron came out the winner his responses were dire, he just flapped his gums, nothing he said had any truth in it at all :/
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I agree, the audience were really hostile it was really odd... And strangely confident, they were monologuing and challenging answers like it was second nature

It's a mystery why cameron came out the winner his responses were dire, he just flapped his gums, nothing he said had any truth in it at all :/
the exact same can be said about miliband
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I agree, the audience were really hostile it was really odd... And strangely confident, they were monologuing and challenging answers like it was second nature

It's a mystery why cameron came out the winner his responses were dire, he just flapped his gums, nothing he said had any truth in it at all :/
I thought DC's answers were very slick and polished and that Ed just "flapped his gums" I guess if you agree with what someone says it all makes perfect sense. I should add that I barely listened to a word Nick said, I just don't rate him much above zero in the credibility index.

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He should've been pressed more... what are the 12 million in welfare cuts?... we are still no further on knowing what they are after 5yrs , he just keeps waving that piece of paper like it proves there was no recession and they haven't killed people through austerity measures... and they have!
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He should've been pressed more... what are the 12 million in welfare cuts?... we are still no further on knowing what they are after 5yrs , he just keeps waving that piece of paper like it proves there was no recession and they haven't killed people through austerity measures... and they have!
it is a disgrace he hasn't been grilled on these welfare cuts and where the hell 12 billion is coming from? the poor sick and the disabled must be having a lot of sleepless nights....the other parties haven't really explained it properly either mind. nor has any party bar snp (who cleverly merged the social services and nhs trusts) and ukip really addressed the enormous waste and mismanagement in this country
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