[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Youtube video

Kizzy because you block so much good news reports
I even copy Live News
this from march this year
I posted on another thread


Conservative are Positive

I don't block anything!

Ask my daughter how she feels about her student debt... However, even though she's extremely intelligent and eloquent don't expect many words of more than one syllable.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't block anything!

Ask my daughter how she feels about her student debt... However, even though she's extremely intelligent and eloquent don't expect many words of more than one syllable.

I know loads of students furious at the debts they have around their necks Kizzy, debts that are taken into account too when they go for a mortgage.

[arista]

"against him all ways he turns,"


Yes All Legal though Joey
you have your lil' mirror
yapping at our feet

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't block anything!

Ask my daughter how she feels about her student debt... However, even though she's extremely intelligent and eloquent don't expect many words of more than one syllable.

OK but that Live Video (Ch4HDNews)
I posted was the truth.



I am sure student debt is normal
with all students
I wish your Daughter well.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

OK but that Live Video (Ch4HDNews)
I posted was the truth.



I am sure student debt is normal
with all students
I wish your Daughter well.

I'm sure it was but it was one opinion at the tory conference wasn't it? it's just not representative.

Thankyou.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm sure it was but it was one opinion at the tory conference wasn't it? it's just not representative.

Thankyou.

No it was in Plymouth
not at the conference.


Ch4HDNews is one of the best
just because you do not agree
with those talking
does not change what went
down at the fantastic Election


I am positive

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

No it was in Plymouth
not at the conference.


Ch4HDNews is one of the best
just because you do not agree
with those talking
does not change what went
down at the fantastic Election


I am positive

I never said anything against c4 news :/

No I don't agree with that one person questioned, and the outcome of the election wasn't in my opinion that fantastic, either time will tell I guess whether it was positive for the UK as a whole... I'll try to be as positive, no promises.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I never said anything against c4 news :/

No I don't agree with that one person questioned, and the outcome of the election wasn't in my opinion that fantastic, either time will tell I guess whether it was positive for the UK as a whole... I'll try to be as positive, no promises.

Thank You
Respect to you and your family

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"against him all ways he turns,"


Yes All Legal though Joey
you have your lil' mirror
yapping at our feet

No, no way was that SUN headline that called the Liverpool fans legal, any ordinary person publicly stating that would have been likely hauled through the courts.

It was a disgraceful front page and they had the audacity to headline it with 'the truth'.
Once it was established that was totally wrong and the evidence was there as to same, that paper should have been chucked out of existence.
It brought, by its slanderous and lying comments, massive distress to the family and friends of those who died who were being branded so disgracefully by the Sun.

All it did at that time was beyond defending, its staff should have been made to apologise on their hands and knees and Kelvin Mckenzie should have been prosecuted for it too.

Oh and by the way, I dislike the Mirror equally too, so you are wrong again.

This is why I applaud Andy Burnham's insistence in helping not to let this issue drop.

[arista]

"Oh and by the way, I dislike the Mirror equally too, so you are wrong again."

Well thats good to hear.

[arista]

Yes Ed changed the voting
but the Unions do not care
as their members want a Left Wing Loser


And Old Len giving strong advice to a future Scottish Labour

[joeysteele]

...and labour are taking no notice, he hasn't the block vote to use this time,so the media can do all it likes to stir up a story here but there is none.
He and his Union get the same way to vote as anyone else in this leadership election,he does not call the shots in any way whatsoever.

Were he to decide to take funding away from Labour, that is up to him and his Union members over the whole of the UK.He will get not a thing he hopes for from any other party so let them go I say.
The whole of the UK is what will matter to the next Labour leader and this man and his Union, can have a voice as to the direction Labour will go but the days of any dictation are now long gone,and Len mcCluskey knows that too.

He fought to get Ed Miliband elected, and got nothing for it, he even got the power of his Unions as to voting for Labour leaders in the future completely eroded by Ed Miliband's changes to the procedure.

Let the Unite union vote in July to end its links with Labour, great, then only Labour members from the Union will get a vote as to the leader in September and he and the union will get no input at all then really.
Call the stupid man's bluff Labour, and don't let the media invent a story that isn't even there with any basis.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

Even The Queen's delighted that Bollock Chuka Obamamunna has departed. She's laughing her old 'ass off.

[arista]

"Call the stupid man's bluff Labour, and don't let the media invent a story that isn't even there with any basis. "

Yes lets see what happens.


I would like Len
Live on Ch4HD News tonight
lets have some balance , joey

[the truth]

got to be someone new, no one from new labour

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"Call the stupid man's bluff Labour, and don't let the media invent a story that isn't even there with any basis. "

Yes lets see what happens.


I would like Len
Live on Ch4HD News tonight
lets have some balance , joey

I'd like to see him on any news, Channel 4 news is not any better than any others in my view.

I stand by my comments because when most of the Labour party and those who support it,want to see sense and all coming together,it doesn't help to start this we may look at doing this, or doing that, like he is.

He knows the power he had in the last leadership election is gone and so the mouth is made to go at a time when really he would be wiser to keep it shut for a while.

I am reminded of that expression, it is better for someone to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open their mouth and remove all doubt.
I'd like to see and hear him too and there are things I'd like to say to him were I ever to see him too.

In any event, I think it is time both the Unions and Labour assessed the connections again between them,my own guess would be that the Union members themselves will not want to sever links,not even his union.

[Kizzy]

'The New Statesman has published the text of an open letter Liz Kendall, the Labour leadership contender, has written to trade unionists. Here’s an excerpt.

Trade unions helped found the Labour Party, and if I am elected as leader that link will never be broken. On the contrary, I want to strengthen your relationship with the Labour Party so I will not tolerate those inside or outside our movement who want to put that relationship at risk.'

I'm backing Liz.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'd like to see him on any news, Channel 4 news is not any better than any others in my view.

I stand by my comments because when most of the Labour party and those who support it,want to see sense and all coming together,it doesn't help to start this we may look at doing this, or doing that, like he is.

He knows the power he had in the last leadership election is gone and so the mouth is made to go at a time when really he would be wiser to keep it shut for a while.

I am reminded of that expression, it is better for someone to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open their mouth and remove all doubt.
I'd like to see and hear him too and there are things I'd like to say to him were I ever to see him too.

In any event, I think it is time both the Unions and Labour assessed the connections again between them,my own guess would be that the Union members themselves will not want to sever links,not even his union.

He was on the BBC news yesterday Joey, not sure how you find the video of it though.

[arista]

Yes it was much to brief
so not good enough to report.

A Proper Interview in the Studio is needed

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

He was on the BBC news yesterday Joey, not sure how you find the video of it though.

To be fair to him all the media want and are looking for,as with any party, is something they can take to help either create or give the impression there are great rifts,even when there are none.

I know he has said he doesn't see the Union severing the links and he also indicates he doesn't want that,the media will never strongly put that point however.
I personally think there does need to be a new relationship with the Unions,however the days where they really controlled events are long gone.

So I will wait and see how things go in July,when we are likely able to see and hear right off, how things are said and by whom.
Rather than the taking of things out of context and then adding things that were not even relevant,as the media so loves to do.

[MTVN]

Tristram Hunt not standing but expected to endorse Liz Kendall

[jennyjuniper]

Anyone who is NOT in the IFE's pocket.

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Tristram Hunt not standing but expected to endorse Liz Kendall

From what I've seen of him on tv I thought he came across really well so I would've backed him, but if not him then Liz Kendall is the one who should become leader for me.

[joeysteele]

I'd be happy with Liz Kendall too, she has a good vision for the party and was one of the first to pick up on some things that went wrong.

My only thing is, talking to some voters, she comes across when she talks as condescending,that worked for a certain other lady leader however, so that was just a small gripe really.

[arista]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ce-liz-kendall

Bad Name "Tristram hunt" has not joined the race for leader
which is good as he is like Tory lite