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Originally Posted by the truth

old labour not new labour
and the liberals who paved the way for it all to happen when Lloyd George taxed the rich for the first time, invented national insurance contributions, gave votes to working class people and invented the welfare state

Lloyd George was the greatest most talented politician who ever walked the earth

Well the Liberals clearly lost touch with the voters,despite your praise for them, because by the 2nd world war, they were reduced to a rump.

New Labour no longer exists either,that is why many like Mandelson want to see Labour go back to new Labour days.

I also didn't read or learn about the Liberals in 1929 to 1931, pressing the then Labour govt. to, with Liberal support,introduce the NHS then.

Had the Conservatives won the 1945 election,they for sure would not have brought it in, since they voted 20 times at least against it all through its debates and votes in parliament.

The only way it was got,was by a Labour govt. being elected in 1945.Deny that all you like but it is a fact.