[kefln]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

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Everyone likes different things. Personally i like the laid back types. He's not in a showmance, does not bitch and he's a nice guy. Enough for me.

He described himself as a ladies man and on the first day when talking to Danny he said "lets play this game" and started pointing out who was single on the picture board. He finished up by saying that if you were to flirt with Chloe, the twins would come running because, and I'm quoting here, thats how girls think.

Is he not in a showmance out of choice or because no one is interested?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's just a very chilled, laid back kind of person. A bit like Chicken Stu and he was also my favourite that year.

I love chicken stu, especially with dumplings and healthy dose of parsley. By the way Vanessa, you are borderline perving now girl, reign it in before you get consumed, he is just a face with no personality, you could do better.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kefln

He described himself as a ladies man and on the first day when talking to Danny he said "lets play this game" and started pointing out who was single on the picture board. He finished up by saying that if you were to flirt with Chloe, the twins would come running because, and I'm quoting here, thats how girls think.

Is he not in a showmance out of choice or because no one is interested?

he could have had Jade, but he turned her down. I'm sure a gorgeous looking guy like him is never short of offers.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I love chicken stu, especially with dumplings and healthy dose of parsley. By the way Vanessa, you are borderline perving now girl, reign it in before you get consumed, he is just a face with no personality, you could do better.

If other posters can look at Harry then i see no problem in me and others looking at Cristian. Call it what you like, i don't mind.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We don't know he wouldn't get naked, none of us know him as a person, that is just an assumption people have been making.

I for one, don't care about nudity, everyone has a body underneath their clothes, so I'm not effected by it, nor am i offended by it, whether it be a man or a woman, but for someone people to attack a woman for being comfortable naked, but in the same breath, proclaim a want for a male housemate to strip, whether in jest or not, is double standards.

Well, as I have said personally ,I'de rather none of them strip,its not entertaining to me,but people got in a right lather last night when Marc decided to show his butt,lol,now THAT is double standards,I do think vanessa was joking aswell.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well, as I have said personally ,I'de rather none of them strip,its not entertaining to me,but people got in a right lather last night when Marc decided to show his butt,lol,now THAT is double standards,I do think vanessa was joking aswell.

I don't mind really, but doing the dishes topless is odd to say the least. A man can get away with it, but not a woman. We have breasts!

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

How is that double standards? we all know he wouldn't get naked anyway , and a lot is said in jest , whereas with Harry , people make excuses for her saying she is comfortable and all that crap, we all know why some are making excuses for her behaviour and it isn't because she is a great housemate.

Cristian isn't liked because he's entertaining, its because he's attractive. He could sit in the corner for the rest of the season and people would still vote for him based on that fact alone. They will make excuses for it, but essentially it comes down to his attractiveness. Vanessa is honest in saying that a little nakedness wouldn't be unappreciated. And fair play.

I'm not saying that this is wrong, we all like eye candy, but that is what it is.

Harry is controversial with her nakedness, but no less than Marc. Apart from taking her top off she seems nice enough. She's never going to win but I don't agree with the double standards that are masked under comments like "self respect".

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by kefln

Cristian isn't liked because he's entertaining, its because he's attractive. He could sit in the corner for the rest of the season and people would still vote for him based on that fact alone. They will make excuses for it, but essentially it comes down to his attractiveness. Vanessa is honest in saying that a like nakedness wouldn't be unappreciated. And fair play.

I'm not saying that this is wrong, we all like eye candy, but that is what it is.

Harry is controversial with her nakedness, but no less than Marc. Apart from taking her top off she seems nice enough. She's never going to win but I don't agree with the double standards that are masked under comments like "self respect".

I'm not attracted to him as I'm not attracted to males.
So sorry I stopped reading after your first line.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kefln

Cristian isn't liked because he's entertaining, its because he's attractive. He could sit in the corner for the rest of the season and people would still vote for him based on that fact alone. They will make excuses for it, but essentially it comes down to his attractiveness. Vanessa is honest in saying that a like nakedness wouldn't be unappreciated. And fair play.

I'm not saying that this is wrong, we all like eye candy, but that is what it is.

Harry is controversial with her nakedness, but no less than Marc. Apart from taking her top off she seems nice enough. She's never going to win but I don't agree with the double standards that are masked under comments like "self respect".

harry just goes over the top. in the kitchen i think a woman should not be topless. and on national tv? they're all wearing their swimming costumes when sunbathing and that's fine. But really there's no need to be naked all the time. I think too much gets boring.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

If other posters can look at Harry then i see no problem in me and others looking at Cristian. Call it what you like, i don't mind.

In terms of attractiveness Harry does nothing for me. Her taking her top off does nothing for me. I find the reactions of the others funny, like when she passed Cristian and he looked back, but that is it.

She isn't harming anyone, they are only boobs, off with her.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

he's being clever. getting to the final, then he will do more.

How on earth could you possibly know that Vanessa?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kefln

In terms of attractiveness Harry does nothing for me. Her taking her top off does nothing for me. I find the reactions of the others funny, like when she passed Cristian and he looked back, but that is it.

She isn't harming anyone, they are onl boobs, off with her.

But is there any need to do the dishes topless? if i was in there it would make me uncomfortable.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How on earth could you possibly know that Vanessa?

I'm hoping.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But is there any need to do the dishes topless? if i was in there it would make me uncomfortable.

Other HM's have said they are uncomfortable with her been topless most of the time.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Other HM's have said they are uncomfortable with her been topless most of the time.

And yet she still does it? She needs to tone it down.

[Withano]

He is the most boring one in that house, but that probably bodes well for him because judging by his YouTube/Instagram/Twitter, he's a right self-righteous ,over-confident bellend but he's not coming across badly at all right now.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

harry just goes over the top. in the kitchen i think a woman should not be topless. and on national tv? they're all wearing their swimming costumes when sunbathing and that's fine. But really there's no need to be naked all the time. I think too much gets boring.

Is she naked all the time, or does the HLs show her every time she does it for shock value?

Should a man be topless in the kitchen? It amounts to the same thing.

Jack and Joel have been topless more often than most on the show, is there a need for it?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kefln

Is she naked all the time, or does the HLs show her every time she does it for shock value?

Should a man be topless in the kitchen? It amounts to the same thing.

Jack and Joel have been topless more often than most on the show, is there a need for it?

But it's different for a woman. We have breasts. No one would say anything if she at least had a bra on in the kitchen.

[Liam-]

Why are breasts so offensive and something that should be covered up 24/7? You see worse **** on page 3

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Other HM's have said they are uncomfortable with her been topless most of the time.

Strangely the topic seems to be rarely raised. Eileen complained, as did Simon, but apart from that no one seems to care.

We'll get a better understanding on nominations day.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But it's different for a woman. We have breasts. No one would say anything if she at least had a bra on in the kitchen.

Men have chests too and we both have armpits, nipples, stomachs and belly buttons. All the same body parts, just with extras tagged on, or taken off.

In terms of health walking around with your breasts out is no worse than men walking around with their chests out. The only difference is puritanical values that somehow teach us than women should be more ashamed of their bodies then men.

Watching people argue and call each other names on television is more socially acceptable than a womans chest, something that 50% of the worlds population have. Strange world.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by kefln

Strangely the topic seems to be rarely raised. Eileen complained, as did Simon, but apart from that no one seems to care.

We'll get a better understanding on nominations day.

Danny, Joel & Jack have also mentioned it. Danny has spoken to her & asked her if she could put a vest on as it made some of the HM's uncomfortable.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Danny, Joel & Jack have also mentioned it. Danny has spoken to her & asked her if she could put a vest on as it made some of the HM's uncomfortable.

Cristian also seems uncomfortable with it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Danny, Joel & Jack have also mentioned it. Danny has spoken to her & asked her if she could put a vest on as it made some of the HM's uncomfortable.

About time BB did the right thing,they sorted Aaron out soon enough,if its making others feel uncomfortable,they should tell her to cover up

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

About time BB did the right thing,they sorted Aaron out soon enough,if its making others feel uncomfortable,they should tell her to cover up

I guess until she drapes them over someone BB wont say anything.