[Crimson Dynamo]

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Eric Pickles has lost a lot of weight recently!

[camertone]

cringe.. he is clueless, but thinks he knows everything. bratty and nosy.. bored with him..

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he is a precocious little boy, nothing endearing or likeable in him at all. Comes across as a spoilt brat

[hannah.]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

I'm not english so I don't follow english politics but Joel himself I like. I actually think he has fantastic interviewing and presenting skills and he could have a bright future as a political correspondent. Now whether or not he believes the party's tag lines that's of course what he's going to be saying since he's in the party.

Also this Ł600 effective tax break he was talking about. A lot of people are sneering about it but is it untrue? By raising the entry point to tax they are surely providing tax relief and in terms of % it'll most greatly affect those skirting around that income level.

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yes but they have slashed welfare and public services to the extreme. Not for the poor at all, it's all to suit their rich friends.

AND it was actually implemented by the Lib Dems, Tories opposed it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

All tories are bastards

Thanks for that.

[Livia]

He seems like a misfit to me. You could take that suit off him and put it on a sixty year old man and it'd look okay. He needs someone to take him shopping.

[billy123]

NO im not a deluded little tory wanker.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Thanks for that.

I am sure no one means you Kazanne,just the politicians.

I have many friends who are Conservative supporters, we do argue a lot on some issues but we see ourselves as still great people.
Look at you and I during the election, we were total opposites then.
The secret is never to allow divisions no matter how great to sacrifice futures,or the unity of the past either.

I have to say I actually really like Joel, from what I have seen as to him,he reminds me a lot of how I used to be and how I still am in many ways.
I have little humour, am most of the time really serious,I prefer being around the pack but not part of it.
I think like me too, he has his eyes set on his future and he doesn't want to do anything that may be seen as risky or 'out of line'.

I do have a more wilder side to myself from what I have thus far seen as to Joel but I am interested in him and would,as I said before, be spending a lot of time, chatting to him and debating/challenging him on many issues.
He cannot get a good debate going in there as to politics and maybe politics is his only thing really.
Which makes him possibly look a little lost and out of place.

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yes but they have slashed welfare and public services to the extreme. Not for the poor at all, it's all to suit their rich friends.

Well in fairness to him at no point did he say he was for the poor or for those on welfare. In fact he specifically said he was for working people so slashing welfare is in line with that stance.

Originally Posted by hannah.

AND it was actually implemented by the Lib Dems, Tories opposed it

This is more in line with what I was wondering. They're taking credit for something they tried to prevent which just happened to happen during their time in office. That's the political hypocrisy we know and love.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by hannah.

AND it was actually implemented by the Lib Dems, Tories opposed it

I thought you were talking about cuts then... I was thinking 'what planet are you on??'

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

Well in fairness to him at no point did he say he was for the poor or for those on welfare. In fact he specifically said he was for working people so slashing welfare is in line with that stance.

Most welfare goes to those in-work.

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Most welfare goes to those in-work.

Oh, apologies! I thought that meant jobseekers allowance. I wasn't thinking about stuff like child support etc. My bad.

As I mentioned I'm not hugely familiar with the UK (or Irish tbh) system and was just seeking to understand.

[smudgie]

I really liked Joel at first, now I find hm far too judgemental and pompous.
I started to go off him when he was asking Aaron how many men he had slept with and started dividing it into how many a week, silly beggar hasn't twigged that you could have a few inns day and ne for the rest of the week/ month.
His politics don't bother me at all..Tory and proud of it anyway.

[tomrain]

I can't help thinking he has a gay mouth. I know that's wrong of me but it's just what keeps popping up in my head when he talks, smiles or laughs.

[Vicky.]

Don't mind him, though he talks absolute crap about politics

Hes an odd one though. He is like a teen in the body of an OAP. Was nice seeing him actually have fun last night instead of sitting looking like hes sucking a lemon

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

He's one the most boring HM's in there this year, he just lacks any personality, I thiink there's I void look in his eyes when he's talking or in a conversation with other HM's.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I am sure no one means you Kazanne,just the politicians.

I have many friends who are Conservative supporters, we do argue a lot on some issues but we see ourselves as still great people.
Look at you and I during the election, we were total opposites then.
The secret is never to allow divisions no matter how great to sacrifice futures,or the unity of the past either.

I have to say I actually really like Joel, from what I have seen as to him,he reminds me a lot of how I used to be and how I still am in many ways.
I have little humour, am most of the time really serious,I prefer being around the pack but not part of it.
I think like me too, he has his eyes set on his future and he doesn't want to do anything that may be seen as risky or 'out of line'.

I do have a more wilder side to myself from what I have thus far seen as to Joel but I am interested in him and would,as I said before, be spending a lot of time, chatting to him and debating/challenging him on many issues.
He cannot get a good debate going in there as to politics and maybe politics is his only thing really.
Which makes him possibly look a little lost and out of place.

Joey,I agree Joey,even when we are on opposite sides,it's all good as I know as a person you are good,as for Joel,he annoyed me once,I think its when he was going on at Simon,but I quite like the fellow so far,he is a bit like an old man sometimes but that is funny,lol

[Waynoo]

cant stand Joel but agree with him politically.

[Daniel-X]

Yeah I did like him at first and I liked him tbh up until this week, I've found him incredibley annoying and patronising this week and I'm sick of his constant moaning about everything. He just treats big brother like a big general election debate and it's beginning to grate on me now.

[Josy]

Everything about him is so awkward, even when he's 'having fun' like when he was doing the rap/dancing and when he's cheering about stuff it's just sooo awkward that it's funny

[reece(:]

Why he was saved over Eileen I still don't know.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I did like like Joel, but over the last week I've totally went off him, & I truely disagree with his politics, can't stand the Tories.

[Rob4]

Do not agree with his politics and he seems to be an old man in a boys body, very awkward, but he knows his own mind and has never allowed anyone to bully him which I respect.

[mrflibble]

I couldn't care less about his politics or anything he's done prior to entering the house. I like how he's been in the house so far, so .. yes?