[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Robodog

He's def not bullying her.

He rips the p*ss out of everyone in there equally, he just dislikes Harry more than others.

There's clearly a big difference between the banter and the insulting remarks he dishes out towards/about Harry.

I wasn't sure why he disliked her, until I saw her angry rant with Nick, saying Marc should be scared of her etc.

Said in response to the way he has been treating her. It's amazing isn't it. A person who is responding to a situation created by the bully boy is the one to blame for everything.

Then I realised there was a very angry Harry hiding behind the flimsy one-week mask of a super-friendly Harry. So Marc was right to notice that and fair enough he took a dislike to her fake friendliness.

Why shouldn't she be angry when a man is repeatedly calling her ugly, a pig, smelly, stinking, disgusting, dangerous etc... Would you be happy with that? If someone did that to a friend of mine I'd thump him.

Like Marc said, he'd just keep away her in real life, but in BB you cannot run. Especially when everyday there are BB tasks designed to cause conflict.

As usual - if anyone's the bullying sh*t stirrer - it's BB !

The fact BB even chose characters like Marc and Harry as the new HMs shows that they want this type of conflict for the show!And here it is !
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The fact BB is now a place for bullies to triumph is just another nail in its coffin.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

There's clearly a big difference between the banter and the insulting remarks he dishes out towards/about Harry.



Said in response to the way he has been treating her. It's amazing isn't it. A person who is responding to a situation created by the bully boy is the one to blame for everything.



Why shouldn't she be angry when a man is repeatedly calling her ugly, a pig, smell, stinking, disgusting, dangerous etc... Would you be happy with that?



The fact BB is now a place for bullies to triumph is just another nail in its coffin.

So why are you watching then? If you think its so terrible switch off,which I am sure you said you had done a while ago

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by parmnion

On another thread you concede that people still use it to refer to gypsy's...like marc was.

In the other thread I was told that people at the far end of the country still use it in that context but I'm not talking about the opposite side of Ireland, I'm talking about a couple of minutes down the road which I know fairly well. There's a fair difference in colloquial language between Dublin and Cork.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So why are you watching then? If you think its so terrible switch off,which I am sure you said you had done a while ago

Oh FFS... Can you actually debate a point? Instead of going on about people switching off because they don't like something.

[Livia]

I think whatever's happening, Harry can take care of herself. Anyway, sick of the word "bully" this season, it's been bandied about more than ever.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think whatever's happening, Harry can take care of herself. Anyway, sick of the word "bully" this season, it's been bandied about more than ever.

It hasn't been. Only about one housemate. Who is so concerned about being seen that way he's covered his own ass by trying to make out Harry will make him look like a bully, when it's perfectly clear he's done that himself. To some of us anyway.

[Livia]

Harry gives as good as she gets.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Oh FFS... Can you actually debate a point? Instead of going on about people switching off because they don't like something.

Oh,lol,getting angry ,we've done the debating ,Marc is NOT bullying anyone,this thread is going round in circles,it makes sense to switch something off if you don't like it.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

In the other thread I was told that people at the far end of the country still use it in that context but I'm not talking about the opposite side of Ireland, I'm talking about a couple of minutes down the road which I know fairly well. There's a fair difference in colloquial language between Dublin and Cork.

thats like saying people in newcastle can use the n word while people further south cant.

[rionablue]

I cant stand Marc and I don't like Harry either (disappointed in her as I liked her when she came into the house). However Marc isn't BULLYING anyone. When Marc came into the house first everyone hated him specially Jade as she said she knew him in Dublin and he was a creep. In a few short days he had her turned around and has continued to work the house since then. Danny had a right go at him the first night and a few times that first week now he is eating out of his hand.

In the past two weeks since Marc entered the house the only person who has truly stood up to him is Harry. THATS why Marc hates her. He wants to own the house and to be honest he had been doing a mega job in it. I love Jade but I was disappointed how she did a 360 degree turnaround on her opinion of him. He ramrodded the whole house and took everything to excess with his ABSOLUTELY AWFUL language specially the sexual content, his prancing around the house naked, his disruption of tasks etc. He never expected that Harry would call him out over anything. Now he is turning all his little followers into Harry bashers. He will work his way through them all. Already he he has the other two newbies Sam and Simon in his lair. I am definitely not a Harry fan but she integrated with the other housemates since night one and that's why its the other three newbies are up for the FAKE eviction. Marc is possibly one of the vilest contestants I have ever seen on BB and HE WONT BE TURNING ME like he did the others. Vile and horrible and I wish with all my heart he was truly being evicted. Now he will have a huge advantage of having the three witches (former housemates) on side and will most possibly avoid real eviction for another two weeks !!!!!!

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by parmnion

whilst in an agitated state and whilst calling her dirty etc, he also told her she was a dirty knacker...which is another word for gypsy in ireland.


So yes, that was, in this instance, a racist comment....but keep sweeping these things under the carpet cause he is soooooooooooooooo entertaining.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think whatever's happening, Harry can take care of herself. Anyway, sick of the word "bully" this season, it's been bandied about more than ever.

This is why Off-Season is great

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh,lol,getting angry ,we've done the debating ,Marc is NOT bullying anyone,this thread is going round in circles,it makes sense to switch something off if you don't like it.

Works both ways Kaz, if you don't like Harry's choice to walk around topless turn off.

[Vicky.]

Nope. They were as bad as each other.

At this stage though it really does seem hes trying to not have contact with her at all whenever possible. Now it seems its her with the problem. As she can't get a rise out of him, shes starting on Sam again

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Nope. They were as bad as each other.

At this stage though it really does seem hes trying to not have contact with her at all whenever possible. Now it seems its her with the problem. As she can't get a rise out of him, shes starting on Sam again

He's not avoiding her and he talks about her constantly when she's not in the room.

Hardly avoiding her lol

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Works both ways Kaz, if you don't like Harry's choice to walk around topless turn off.

Difference is I never said I was not going to watch,Beetlejuice did I also didn't say I didn't like her walking round topless,I said there was no need and there isn't,but I really cant be arsed with debating about her being naked again,it's been done to death.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Nope. They were as bad as each other.

At this stage though it really does seem hes trying to not have contact with her at all whenever possible. Now it seems its her with the problem. As she can't get a rise out of him, shes starting on Sam again

This ^^^
He is keeping away from her as much as possible but she is the one who is keeping it going.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh,lol,getting angry ,we've done the debating ,Marc is NOT bullying anyone

Yes, he is.

this thread is going round in circles,it makes sense to switch something off if you don't like it.

No, it makes sense to be critical of it.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Ellen

This ^^^
He is keeping away from her as much as possible but she is the one who is keeping it going.

He is the one referring to her as a pig, smelly, stinking etc... Mocking her looks with Sam

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He's not avoiding her and he talks about her constantly when she's not in the room.

Hardly avoiding her lol

She talks about him more, and he does avoid contact with her...which she asked for btw

[Robodog]

BB encourages conflict.

BB is also guilty of double standards - warning HMs for causing upset, while designing tasks for HMs that deliberately create upset. Ejecting HMs for indecent exposure then replacing 'dull' HMs with ones that regularly expose themselves.

But here we all are - still watching!

I'm surprised that so many viewers still haven't realised the nature and patterns of BB and cry 'bully' every time BB does it's job of racking up the tension.

I don't get why certain people watch the show if they hate this type of conflict so much?

I hate horror films - so I never watch them. I don't watch them and then act all surprised and blog about how gory they are.

If you don't like water - keep away from the beach!

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by parmnion

thats like saying people in newcastle can use the n word while people further south cant.

Not exactly, it's saying that context and meaning is more important than an arrangement of letters. Racism comes from intent rather than the actual word. It is theoretically possible for the n word to be said by a white person in a non racist context if their upbringing supports that but I've never heard of it being used non racially as a negative.

I'm also not saying its ok for Mark to use that word. As I've said before, I don't use it. I'm just explaining that it isn't racial in context the way he used it. He wasn't being racist. He was using an ugly word but he wasn't being racist.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Nope. They were as bad as each other.

At this stage though it really does seem hes trying to not have contact with her at all whenever possible. Now it seems its her with the problem. As she can't get a rise out of him, shes starting on Sam again

Exactly.

Even the housemates have been commenting that Marc is trying to stay away from her, and Nick even mentioned that Harry's dislike for Marc has now turned into a vendetta..

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Josy

Exactly.

Even the housemates have been commenting that Marc is trying to stay away from her, and Nick even mentioned that Harry's dislike for Marc has now turned into a vendetta..

Marc's hasnt?

Let's count the housemates Harry has slagged Marc off to, just in the last week.

1. Nick

Now lets count how many Marc has slagged Harry off to.

1. Spam
2. Danny
3. Jade
4. Joel
5. Cristian

Yeah Harry's the obsessed one lol

[joeysteele]

No way is he bullying her.
She is in any case,well able to stand up for herself and is doing so too.