[karl100589]

This is one I'm going to get grief for: Conor taking the 50k was a good end to his story.

I want to stress this is NOT because I like Conor or condone his actions, but in my eyes a character like Conor can only end their story in one of two ways; the first of these is for the villain in question to suffer a humiliating downfall in which he is left embarassed, broken and a pale shadow of his former self, unfortunately however that was not going to happen based on Vote to Save.

The other way the story can end is what did happen: The villain of the series does something so scummy and unforgivable as a last act that he can never be forgiven for it, and loses any kind of respect and support remaining, and stealing 50k from under your best friend's nose when he had spoke so vocally about his need for it has to be up there.

Give me the choice between that or Conor being the anonymous 4th placed finale boot I would go for the former.

[Pete.]

Conor should have been removed to save BB the grief and mess that was the White Room

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by karl100589

This is one I'm going to get grief for: Conor taking the 50k was a good end to his story.

I want to stress this is NOT because I like Conor or condone his actions, but in my eyes a character like Conor can only end their story in one of two ways; the first of these is for the villain in question to suffer a humiliating downfall in which he is left embarassed, broken and a pale shadow of his former self, unfortunately however that was not going to happen based on Vote to Save.

The other way the story can end is what did happen: The villain of the series does something so scummy and unforgivable as a last act that he can never be forgiven for it, and loses any kind of respect and support remaining, and stealing 50k from under your best friend's nose when he had spoke so vocally about his need for it has to be up there.

Give me the choice between that or Conor being the anonymous 4th placed finale boot I would go for the former.

You think Helen is worse than Conor why?

[karl100589]

Originally Posted by BB6

You think Helen is worse than Conor why?

As bad as Conor was I felt that at times he would fade into the background of the show and other stories would still be allowed to build, whereas I felt Helen had such a domineering presence on BB15 and was 95% of the reason why that series was as nasty and negative as what it was.

Plus Conor's horror was for 5 weeks (he was a non factor for the first two and left in the white room twist), whereas Helen's was for the entire season without us being able to do anything about it.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by karl100589

As bad as Conor was I felt that at times he would fade into the background of the show and other stories would still be allowed to build, whereas I felt Helen had such a domineering presence on BB15 and was 95% of the reason why that series was as nasty and negative as what it was.

Plus Conor's horror was for 5 weeks (he was a non factor for the first two and left in the white room twist), whereas Helen's was for the entire season without us being able to do anything about it.

But Conor threatened rape?
Surely that's much worse than any profanity Helen hurled out.

I've turned off Helen, BTW. After tonights show.
Took me a year. Haha.

Better late than never.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by BB6

But Conor threatened rape?
Surely that's much worse than any profanity Helen hurled out.

I've turned off Helen, BTW. After tonights show.
Took me a year. Haha.

Better late than never.

That's three people on here so far who supported her last year and are sick of her now. I personally don't see how she's any different, but I'm glad to see some of her fans calling out her faults regardless.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

That's three people on here so far who supported her last year and are sick of her now. I personally don't see how she's any different, but I'm glad to see some of her fans calling out her faults regardless.

Because she's against their favourites.

FICKLE.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

That's three people on here so far who supported her last year and are sick of her now. I personally don't see how she's any different, but I'm glad to see some of her fans calling out her faults regardless.

I think last year was because she was in a house full of horrible people, so most of her nastiness was justified to people like Toya and Matthew.

This year, she's just gunning for people without getting a chance to know them. She's being really nasty to Harry, and I'm sick of her snide remarks. She has no perspective, either.
Who ever she hates, she hates, without giving them a chance. Her double standards pisses me off.

She needs to shut the **** up.

Ashleigh is my new BB15 fave now.

I'm here for her getting rid of Jack, though.

[Marsh.]

I don't understand how you disliking Helen now changes your favourites for BB15 though?

BB15 is over and was what it was, nothing changes it.

I'm not a big fan of Aisleyne anymore but it doesn't change the fact I found her very entertaining in BB7. No matter what she's like now doesn't change what I did and didn't enjoy during the series.

[reece(:]

Maybe seeing Helen again now has given him some perspective?

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't understand how you disliking Helen now changes your favourites for BB15 though?

BB15 is over and was what it was, nothing changes it.

I'm not a big fan of Aisleyne anymore but it doesn't change the fact I found her very entertaining in BB7. No matter what she's like now doesn't change what I did and didn't enjoy during the series.

Because, despite Helen being my fave, she wasn't a strong fave. I still disliked her to a small amount, but not as much as 80% of that awful cast.

I've always said, that if she disappointed me, then I will change my opinion of her.
And I have.

I liked her, now I don't.
So she's no longer my BB15 favorite, anymore. Because I don't like her.

You seem to have a big problem with me changing my opinion of her. It happens. If you like her that's fine.

She's nowhere near the worst housemate of BB15, and she's still quite high in my rankings. But, she's no longer my fave or in My Top 3, anymore.

[Jason.]

I don't care if she dislikes my favourites.
Nikki doesn't like my faves, it doesn't mean I've automatically changed my opinion on her.

I'm just sick of Helen's remarks. She's annoying me.

[Marsh.]

I don't have a problem with you disliking her.

I couldn't care less. Just pointing out the ridiculousness of it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by BB6

She's nowhere near the worst housemate of BB15, and she's still quite high in my rankings. But, she's no longer my fave or in My Top 3, anymore.

But because it's changed not based on anything actually in BB15, makes it a bit silly IMO.

[Pete.]

Yes screw Helen

[Pete.]

BB8 > BB5

[EspeonBB]

Nikki is overrated and only like my 6th fave from BB7

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Nikki is overrated and only like my 6th fave from BB7

Rank em

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Rank em

1. Queen of Big Brother Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace
2. Susie
3. Imogen
4. Lea
5. Glyn
6. Nikki

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

BB8 > BB5

[MB.]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Nikki is overrated and only like my 6th fave from BB7

Slay

Originally Posted by Petemitch

BB8 > BB5

Do not

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Nikki is overrated and only like my 6th fave from BB7

This.

I like Grace, Lea, Sezer, Shahbaz, and Lisa more.

[Pete.]

Science was vile

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Science was vile

Stop spreading lies

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Here are some more of mine (I don't really know what's popular in this forum so I don't know whether some of these are unpopular opinions or not)

- Toya kinda sucks and is beyond overrated. She was as bad as Helen & Pauline for the first 2 weeks and was only good in her last week, still not enough to make me like her though.
- Noirin is overrated (although I like her)
- Hazel sucks and is unworthy of occupying Queen Gina's space
- Lesleh BB6 is vile and her bullying of Sam is one of the worst cases I've seen on this show
- Rachel BB9 is NOT BORING and the second best winner this show has ever had behind Nadia
- Aaron BB12 is the worst winner ever

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

1. Queen of Big Brother Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace
2. Susie
3. Imogen
4. Lea
5. Glyn
6. Nikki

Aisleyne,Imogen,Glyn and Nikki