[TomC]

I'm still enjoying it through

Also, there really are too many twists this year. If you compare the first five weeks' twists of last year with this year, I'd take last year. Apart from the girls being given immunity in Week 4, the twists were very well thought-out and interesting last year, such as the final pass, killer nom, Chris' secret noms, Toya's twist. This year apart from the Day 1 and 4 twists, they've all seemed to be last minute whims, and flipping the noms on Day 16 was just downright unfair.

[mrmattybeck1]

Not quite bb15 the worst it's the second worst for me it was going along nicely till 4in4out

[EspeonBB]

I still don't know whether it's worse than BB12 but it's definitely getting there. It's like the producers want to kill the show off

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Moosething

It is by far the messiest production wise & twists.

But has it been the worst Big Brother series for you so far?

No its not

BB15 was the worst by far. That was PAINFUL to watch. I dreaded it!

This one was really great until 4 in 4 out. They should have just put 4 in.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

It's like the producers want to kill the show off

Surely if they wanted to kill off the show they wouldn't, round up old housemates and put them in there. Or try and re-vamp the show by picking off 4 and replacing them.



Maybe my understanding of a producer giving up on a show is wrong. I would have thought if they weren't interested they would just let it ride out and not bother trying anything new.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It simply isn't big brother any more and it looks like the producers have given up even pretending it is.

No normal noms, no normal evictions, outside contact every single day, housemates evicted without being nominated, old housemates thrown in, everything edited in such a way that all conversations are navel-gazing and clearly started by the producers.

What is this freakshow?

I really think they have killed it now. I doubt civilian BB will be back.

I cant believe Im saying this - but I wouldnt mind if it wasn't on next year.
Im beginnning to hate it.

Why could they just not leave it alone? They didnt want Jade evicted - after the Nick thing - but getting rid of Sarah and Harriet?? Was maddness - they could have put new HMs in without taking any out -

Just remembered Sam Pepper!

[little.lilly]

Yes. This series has killed it for me. I shall not be watching any more of this rubbish.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow

the twists were very well thought-out and interesting last year

They really weren't.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow

the twists were very well thought-out and interesting last year, such as the final pass

The 'final pass' was probably the single worst thing that's ever happened in the history of BB. It (along with some extremely favourable editing) pretty much handed Helen over £100 grand on a silver platter! How could BB ever be taken seriously again after that debacle!

[Visage]

Originally Posted by sungrass

but I wouldnt mind if it wasn't on next year.

But what about those of us who do want it on next year. Does it need to be cancelled for you to stop watching, because if it continues you have no choice but to watch?

Originally Posted by sungrass

Im beginnning to hate it.

I can't say I've ever hated a show, but generally once I start not enjoying it I give it up and move onto another a show. If this really is upsetting you, it's probably better you give up now.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Thing is, if the legends are allowed to win then Brian will walk it by a country mile. So even that would be a predictable borefest.

They are leaving tonight though

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Visage

Surely if they wanted to kill off the show they wouldn't, round up old housemates and put them in there. Or try and re-vamp the show by picking off 4 and replacing them.



Maybe my understanding of a producer giving up on a show is wrong. I would have thought if they weren't interested they would just let it ride out and not bother trying anything new.

I meant it's LIKE they're giving up on the show with all these pointless twists and production manipulation. I honestly think they don't really care about the civilian BB any more and will put all their effort into CBB

[Visage]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

I meant it's LIKE they're giving up on the show with all these pointless twists and production manipulation. I honestly think they don't really care about the civilian BB any more and will put all their effort into CBB

I find it really fascinating how opinions can really differ.

I get the very opposite impression, I think by the twists and the changes they've made this year, they are trying harder to make it more fun for the viewers.

[Rob!]

It's not the worst but it's certainly the messiest. It's never been more evident that there is a lot of this series that they're making up as they go along.

[RtooDee2]

The program has just become so random, plenty of half baked ideas thrown around with no structure ect. I miss the days when housemates had no outside influence and could nominate without "twists".

As far as the worst? BB4 is still my own worst BB experience, but i did miss last years (the only one i didnt bother with)

[TomC]

Originally Posted by MB.

They really weren't.

It's a matter of opinion.

Although the final pass was controversial, it brought a dynamic to the house we'd never seen before and I think that is a good watch and the killer nom did a similar thing.

Week 2 was also very interesting with the secret noms and the paranoia that ensued.

Week 3 had a good twist that although was over complicated, was explained from the start and Toya being overthrown was good shock value.

Also, bar the killer noms, all nominations were secret until Week 8. I definitely think the twists were good in the first 5 weeks of BB15.

I don't really appreciate your tone tbh btw.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by JTM45

The 'final pass' was probably the single worst thing that's ever happened in the history of BB. It (along with some extremely favourable editing) pretty much handed Helen over £100 grand on a silver platter! How could BB ever be taken seriously again after that debacle!

Quite. She would have been gone in week 3 or 4, never to be heard of again. But in the final week, as predictable many reality show fans went with the purile vote.

Those who hated her for ages, switched. Many here, mention no names, did so.

[Chilltown]

Hands down one of the most entertaining series of BB to date. Has the production been a bit messy? Yes. But in terms of entertainment and drama, this edges out many other series.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

I remember actually laughing at Steven last year. Rooting for Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher at certain points. I was genuinely involved regardless of whether I liked the twists and all the manipulation. Depressing though the ending was, I felt something.

I could not care less about any of the originals or newbies at this point. Even Marc has been reduced to walk on part in this farce.

Couldn't agree more.
After watching BB15 I felt like I needed a good shower to wash away all of this nastiness - but this year I'm just staring at the tv rolling my eyes at all of this structured synthetic drama to finish.

4in4out killed it - no depth, no storyline, nothing, just "oh! look how marc is winding then up, oh how funny and entertaining! not." endlessly repeated.
When the series started I had high hopes, it seemed like it's going to be a good one, but then it all went downhill - my 2nd greatest disappointment by far from BB (Helen winning is 1st).
I wish any of the original hms win this show, even the boring ones - C5 needs to be ruined for their pathetic twist obsession.