[arista]

Live on all news Channels

The Racist Killer is on a Video Link
as many will try to kill him

[arista]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_...tes_of_America

From Ch4HDNews
Many Blacks are now demanding
every Confederate Flag to be taken down


Also a Pro Gun Man
said if they were armed
they would still be Alive today


I have now made a thread on this topic

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

^^Take them down. It is nothing but a reminder that such acts are still condoned amongst many.




Ugh it is heartbreaking to hear the victims families saying they forgive IT.

[arista]

Yes Well said Bill.

[Samuel.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rt-papers.html

Franklin Bennett Roof, often called Benn, who bought his son the gun which he used for the massacre, subjected Paige to a ‘pattern of control and mental manipulation’ that ended with a vicious assault, court files reveal.

Franklin is said to have shredded Paige’s self esteem during their 10-year marriage and kept her in a virtual prison by calling her several times a day and demanding to know what she was doing.

Hastings said that Franklin was ‘manipulative’ and that once in January 2009 he came round and was ‘pounding on the front door and yelling in the extreme’.

As the divorce was finalized in 2009 Dylan’s last chance of a stable family life disappeared, meaning that at the age of 15 his life began to go off the rails.

His main anchor in life was a father who was away travelling for four days each week with his construction company.

Dylann began to skip classes, did not finish high school and became unemployed, living ‘on and off’ with his father while he spent his days doing drugs and playing video games.

Hastings wrote that Dylann stayed with Paige and Franklin far more often than with his own mother, who was supposed to have him every other weekend.

The obvious influence of his father was undoubtedly a factor, if not the factor, to where he ended up.

So many of these stories lead back to terrible upbringings.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

^^Take them down. It is nothing but a reminder that such acts are still condoned amongst many.




Ugh it is heartbreaking to hear the victims families saying they forgive IT.

Such a terrible thing to happen and I can imagine how personal it must feel to you and how angry you must feel as a black person

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rt-papers.html








The obvious influence of his father was undoubtedly a factor, if not the factor, to where he ended up.

So many of these stories lead back to terrible upbringings.

..what CeeCee is saying though Samuel is that he was 'wearing his cause' and if a Muslim was wearing their cause for instance in such a comparable massacre, then where would a 'background' be looked into or reported by the media in a similar way..they would in fact by the media be immediately be condemned as 'evil' and nothing more or nothing less/dehumanising them...but here we have all of the interest into the 'human interest' of him...what 'made him tick' type thing, what is his background/family dynamics/how did this happen and come to this...and those are really valid points that she's making ...because 'white', whether it be 'white who do bad things' or not can't really ever truly understand that but that's not because it doesn't exist but I think more because people don't want to believe that it exists...and I personally think it's existing in this case because the media whether it's intentional or not are more or less 'dehumanising' the victims to an extent by delving so much to his background and mental health and focusing on that to report while very little about the victims 'stories'...


..and although I do agree that in all cases such as this there should be some 'understanding' and don't agree with people being dismissed as just 'evil'..it's not really his upbringing that is a factor so much as his own coping skills etc in his life because the greater number of people who sadly have these 'stories' don't do tings like this...so yeah, mental illness of course but then there's nature V nurture as well and so many other things that will possibly never be understood...and it's those very complex things with the human mind that I think that no matter how much 'understanding', it's so unlikely that many things would actually be prevented from happening because the human mind really is so complicated and beyond even the reach of all of the psychologists....

[GypsyGoth]

He should have shot whoever gave him that haircut.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

He should have shot whoever gave him that haircut.

If ever there was a hate crime...

Though I started the haircut jokes way back on page one! Keep up!

[arista]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

He should have shot whoever gave him that haircut.

He does not care
his mission was done

Next Electric Chair for him
his Hair will the Rise

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

"
EXCLUSIVE: Charleston 'killer' Dylann Roof grew up in a fractured home where his 'violent' father beat his stepmother and hired a private detective to follow her when they split, she claims in court papers


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3131858/Charleston-killer-Dylann-Roof-grew-fractured-home-violent-father-beat-stepmother-hired-private-detective-follow-split-claims-court-papers.html"

Cool story he should have killed his violent stepfather then. Are we going to hear the story where he did drugs and was violent to his girlfriend or are we going to keep working hard to show his "fractured home" is the reason why he went to kill black people?

"Outrage as Charleston judge tells relatives of murdered churchgoers that the killer's family are VICTIMS"

Not surprised he made a statement calling black people nigg8rs.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rt-papers.html








The obvious influence of his father was undoubtedly a factor, if not the factor, to where he ended up.

So many of these stories lead back to terrible upbringings.

Isn't that so bloody convenient?! All these black people that get shot also come from terrible upbringing but do we hear this or do we hear about how they stole a cigarette? Do we hear about what they achieved in school? Nope.
The media is biased!
White criminal/victim-quick let's dig up and see what we can find to show his broken home is the reason for his mass murdering gene.

Black criminal/victim-quick let's dig up and show he was a thug and deserved it.


Anyways, don't be a prick. If anything a violent father should have made him violent towards women, as it would be the most common pattern, not develop a massive hatred towards black people.

Imo, no relation at all. His father was violent, cool story, so were a lot of people's fathers. Next.

[Kizzy]

It does seem like they are clutching at straws to find an excuse for this... if he was so traumatised by his dad why didn't he kill him and not all these innocents?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..what CeeCee is saying though Samuel is that he was 'wearing his cause' and if a Muslim was wearing their cause for instance in such a comparable massacre, then where would a 'background' be looked into or reported by the media in a similar way..they would in fact by the media be immediately be condemned as 'evil' and nothing more or nothing less/dehumanising them...but here we have all of the interest into the 'human interest' of him...what 'made him tick' type thing, what is his background/family dynamics/how did this happen and come to this...and those are really valid points that she's making ...because 'white', whether it be 'white who do bad things' or not can't really ever truly understand that but that's not because it doesn't exist but I think more because people don't want to believe that it exists...and I personally think it's existing in this case because the media whether it's intentional or not are more or less 'dehumanising' the victims to an extent by delving so much to his background and mental health and focusing on that to report while very little about the victims 'stories'...


..and although I do agree that in all cases such as this there should be some 'understanding' and don't agree with people being dismissed as just 'evil'..it's not really his upbringing that is a factor so much as his own coping skills etc in his life because the greater number of people who sadly have these 'stories' don't do tings like this...so yeah, mental illness of course but then there's nature V nurture as well and so many other things that will possibly never be understood...and it's those very complex things with the human mind that I think that no matter how much 'understanding', it's so unlikely that many things would actually be prevented from happening because the human mind really is so complicated and beyond even the reach of all of the psychologists....

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

[Crimson Dynamo]

You will always get a back story on any killer, its the norm.

[Kizzy]

Yes and in some cases it fits, they can't just make this one fit.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

[Kizzy]

Hey if O reilly can see it for what it is then that's something :/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hey if O reilly can see it for what it is then that's something :/

Yes he does get some things right.

[arista]

[Charleston killer Dylann Roof grew up in a
fractured home where his 'violent' father beat his stepmother
and hired a private detective
to follow her when they split, she claims in court papers]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3dbj2Y334


The Evil Dad of the killer
who beats women up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The father seems nice

[smudgie]

Pure racist hate crime, however they dress if up.
Forget all the excuses they try throwing up, the murderer has admitted why he did it, can't get any simpler than that really.

As to the stepfather beating the mother as an excuse..what a load of bollox, mine beat my mother on a regular basis for years and I would like to think I am somewhere near normal without such hatred in my heart.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The father seems nice

Unless you are woman

[arista]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Pure racist hate crime, however they dress if up.
Forget all the excuses they try throwing up, the murderer has admitted why he did it, can't get any simpler than that really.

As to the stepfather beating the mother as an excuse..what a load of bollox, mine beat my mother on a regular basis for years and I would like to think I am somewhere near normal without such hatred in my heart.

Yes I would Speed up the Electric Chair
Fry Him Dead


American Justice

[user104658]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Pure racist hate crime, however they dress if up.
Forget all the excuses they try throwing up, the murderer has admitted why he did it, can't get any simpler than that really.

As to the stepfather beating the mother as an excuse..what a load of bollox, mine beat my mother on a regular basis for years and I would like to think I am somewhere near normal without such hatred in my heart.

A lot of children of alcoholics develop alcohol problems themselves. My mother was an alcoholic yet I have no issues with alcohol. I can still accept that parental alcoholism can have a knock on effect on offspring, though. Just because it doesn't always happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

This guy is clearly very messed up. That's not an excuse. He's dangerous and did something horrendous; lock him up and throw away the key as far as I'm concerned. He's almost certainly not redeemable in any way. The fact that he is dangerous and not fit to be around other human beings and should be locked away forever does not change the fact that it's very likely he has a seriously disturbed past and resulting psychological issues. The vast majority of criminals do . It doesn't excuse their actions but it goes some way to explaining them, and that IS important, because it's the only way steps can be taken to try to stop other kids falling through the same cracks and becoming pariahs like this guy.