[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Nope none of them are. Except maybe Jack, who seems rather unfair towards Simon to me. The others are all reacting to Marc's behaviour towards themselves and others.

As I said, he goads people until they snap and then they end up being accused of being bullies!

Erm, yes. He quite clearly is. The idea Cristian, who was just happy keeping his head down, until Marc just went on and on and on at him is a bully is hilarious.

He's also the producer's pet and has the show being rigged for him to stay in as long as possible, and he'll probably win. Because bullies often win on Channel 5's Big Brother now.

So I must have imagined Christian basically telling Joel to watch his back since he stopped towing the line, I must have imagined how every week they noms arent fixed the people up are always the ones Danny and Christian want up, I must have imagined how the ones not in that little clique all know you cant go against them or youll be up automatically.

WAKE UP its why the producers have rigged this year and stuck marc, helen nikki and that other bellend back in cause they could see Danny and the boring ones had it sewn up and they needed to rescue their show.

Yes for sure Marc is being protected by the producers thank god, or Danny and his little gang would sail through to the most boring final since BB4

That doesnt make ANY of them a bully mind you, look up the definition calling people names is not bullying... period end of story

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by RodHull

So I must have imagined Christian basically telling Joel to watch his back since he stopped towing the line

He was telling him to watch out for Marc and Helen, who drag people down.

I must have imagined how every week they noms arent fixed the people up are always the ones Danny and Christian want up

I'm sorry, how is that an example of bullying? And the noms have been fixed every week.

I must have imagined how the ones not in that little clique all know you cant go against them or youll be up automatically.

And then Big Brother will twist it to save whoever they want anyway. WHo has that "clique" gone for exactly?

WAKE UP its why the producers have rigged this year and stuck marc, helen nikki and that other bellend back in cause they could see Danny and the boring ones had it sewn up and they needed to rescue their show.

They've stuck them in there because their show is unwatchable and they're desperate. The idea they're all in there because Danny and his gang have taken over their show is so laughable I don't even know where to begin.

Yes for sure Marc is being protected by the producers thank god

So you admit that. And you're happy with it all being fixed to keep him in. Okay.

or Danny and his little gang would sail through to the most boring final since BB4

It's the worst series of all time regardless of how bad BB4 was. And the viewing figures reflect that.

That doesnt make ANY of them a bully mind you, look up the definition calling people names is not bullying... period end of story

Repeatedly calling people names designed to hurt is bullying. Covering your arse by calling it "banter" is manipulative. Ergo Marc is a manipulative bully.

[JTM45]

I really think if they pull another blatant rig-job to save Mark it will be the final straw for a lot of viewers and i can see a lot of people completely losing the will to stick with this Series of BB.
What would be the point of sticking with it if you're not a Mark fan and the show is just being fixed for him to stay in the house and probably 'win' (if you can call it 'winning').

The producers are just having a laugh at the expense of the viewers!

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

They've stuck them in there because their show is unwatchable and they're desperate. The idea they're all in there because Danny and his gang have taken over their show is so laughable I don't even know where to begin.

Please dont try to twist my words it belittles both of us...

Im not suggesting danny is some gang boss running the show. But the producers clearly saw that the new 4 would all be picked off one by one by the little group that formed of Danny christian Jack and chloe and as TV producers you can bet your ass they panicked cause they know how hella dull a final with those 4 would be

Its just human nature they formed into a group of old vs new but clearly those 4 were (whether knowingly or not) calling the shots cause Jade was kind of a loner, nik is just nik and floats about being useless and Joel like Jade was always a bit of a loner as well. Danny and the others would have put up new 4 then Jade nik and Joel in that order guaranteed

It was obvious after about 3 days of the new ones going in

So yeah Marc has clearly been sent in to ****** with that groups powerplay. Good frankly

But back on topic none of them are bullys, calling people names is NOT bullying

Dictionary definition

use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something.

Amusingly the only person whos tried to intimidate anyone has been Danny on 3 occasions

[Kate!]

He shouldn't have been exempt from tag nominations. Could it be any more obvious that they are fixing it for him to stay in till the final. Yuck!

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Please dont try to twist my words it belittles both of us...

I haven't twisted anything. The producers have ruined the show and are now reliant on pointless twists and desperate stunts. That's why Marc and the "Legends" are in there.

Im not suggesting danny is some gang boss running the show. But the producers clearly saw that the new 4 would all be picked off one by one by the little group that formed of Danny christian Jack and chloe and as TV producers you can bet your ass they panicked cause they know how hella dull a final with those 4 would be

The moment Jack is up, he's gone. So that's one of them gone. And even if that wasn't the case, it doesn't justify rigging the show, which ultimately will just lead to its destruction.

Its just human nature they formed into a group of old vs new but clearly those 4 were (whether knowingly or not) calling the shots cause Jade was kind of a loner, nik is just nik and floats about being useless and Joel like Jade was always a bit of a loner as well. Danny and the others would have put up new 4 then Jade nik and Joel in that order guaranteed

And so what? The four of them like each other. All the others had to do is get together and put Jack up.

So yeah Marc has clearly been sent in to ****** with that groups powerplay. Good frankly

He was sent in to cause drama to get the sagging viewing figures up. Same as Helen, Nikki and Brian. The reason the show is in the state it's in is because the people running it are incompetent buffoons.

But back on topic none of them are bullys, calling people names is NOT bullying

Dictionary definition



Amusingly the only person whos tried to intimidate anyone has been Danny on 3 occasions

Let's go with the full definition here including synonyms...

bully1
ˈbʊli/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: bullying
use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something.
"a local man was bullied into helping them"
synonyms: persecute, oppress, tyrannize, torment, browbeat, intimidate, cow, coerce, strong-arm, subjugate, domineer; More

Oppress, tyrannize, torment, browbeat, intimidate, domineer...

All of which Marc has done since he entered the house and especially since he was given power.

Apparently we now live in a world where a kid that is repeatedly called names by another kid in school to the point of him ending up in tears isn't a bully though. Because calling people names isn't.

Sorry, Marc is a bully and a manipulative one at that. But you justify this and the rigging of the show in his favour because, well... I still don't know to be honest. Because a show that was already **** will still be **** if they don't.

The freedictionary has a slightly different definition as well...

bul·ly 1 (bo͝ol′ē)
n. pl. bul·lies
1. A person who is habitually cruel or overbearing, especially to smaller or weaker people.


Doesn't sound like Marc at all

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by skidmarks

nah mark is the man, all the others are just horrible back stabbers.

Agreed, they are all ass pockets who backstage. Marc and Helen are what they are.

Jack is disgusting.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

Marc and Helen are what they are.

They are indeed!
Both total assholes. Mark was almost bearable once he initially settled down and intergrated into the house but as soon as big bad Helen got in there he was lost under her awful influence.

He's become as tedious as she is now. The pair of them (Mark even moreso than Helen now i think!) are just ruining the series for me. The housemates haven't been allowed to naturally develop and come out of their shells because he's there waiting to jump on anyone who shows any signs of doing anything!

The guy's a parasite!!!!!

[bbusfan]

He can prod away at me

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Nobody is snapping though. As Joel said three weeks ago "ignore him, and it will stop". It has in the main, except Joel has gone up Marc's sphincter, because of his mum.

Bad mummy!!

..

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by JTM45

They are indeed!
Both total assholes. Mark was almost bearable once he initially settled down and intergrated into the house but as soon as big bad Helen got in there he was lost under her awful influence.

He's become as tedious as she is now. The pair of them (Mark even moreso than Helen now i think!) are just ruining the series for me. The housemates haven't been allowed to naturally develop and come out of their shells because he's there waiting to jump on anyone who shows any signs of doing anything!

The guy's a parasite!!!!!

You are spot on...Marc's being given the favouritism Helen was last year and I fear we could end up with any vile winner.
Shame because Marc grew on me before 'The bunker'...now his true self has emerged with the influence of that vile piece of ****e.
Marc has become too big for his boots. Maybe he thinks by being a prick like Helen he will win it like she did. Judging by the support he and she gets on this forum, I think it will happen..and both got an unfair helping hand.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

... They snap. At which point they are "boring", "humourless" or "aggressive" and Marc is just trying to have "fun", bring a bit of "banter" to the house or, most amusingly of all, is a "victim"

This is Big Brother 16 in week 7 and will probably be it for the next 4 weeks as well.

Personally I find it rather tedious. But that's just me.

This has to be the most on point post in tbis forum, this series.

[Kizzy]

I agree, I noticed too his 'banter' was always really one sided... if the other person isn't finding the comments funny it isn't 'banter' is it?
The 'tick ye' comments and the fat jibes are just boring even helen has stopped pretending to be amused by him.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I agree, I noticed too his 'banter' was always really one sided... if the other person isn't finding the comments funny it isn't 'banter' is it?
The 'tick ye' comments and the fat jibes are just boring even helen has stopped pretending to be amused by him.

When Helen is no longer amused by bullying then that's very worrying.




I really thought she would be lapping him up, but she seems irritated. If he ever went for her, she initally laugh it off, then get annoyed, then she'd bite back, however, I reckon even Helen would get upset. Yes, even Helen.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

When Helen is no longer amused by bullying then that's very worrying. I really thought she would be lapping him up, but she seems irritated. If he ever went for her, she initally laugh it off, then get annoyed, then she'd bite back, however, I reckon even Helen would get upset. Yes, even Helen.

Helen would have his guts for garters!

[alex_front2]

Disagree, Vanessa. Marc would destroy Helen, I feel a poll coming on Helen V Marc!!!

Marc is very good at interspersing his heinous behaviour with cheap charm however it's fake. He's probably nastier deep down. Helen is nasty too, but evebn i could see does have a thickly veiled nice side to people she likes (she did care about Ash, Steven, Biannnca ,Tamara last year, whereas Marc doesn't give two s**** about Showbiz unless he agrees with him) Marc will know which buttons to push against Helen, grind her down with drip feed nastiness and Helen will cry like a baby.

[bots]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Disagree, Vanessa. Marc would destroy Helen, I feel a poll coming on Helen V Marc!!!

Marc is very good at interspersing his heinous behaviour with cheap charm however it's fake. He's probab5 nastier deep down. Helen is nasty too, but Marc will know which buttons to push, grind her down with drip feed nastiness and Helen will cry like a baby.

nah, you have forgotten that helen is a legend and in the superior position. Marc would lose every time unless it was scripted for Helen to lose, and I can't see her swallowing that

[Livia]

Helen and Marc are the same. One has a penis and one doesn't, one's had more surgery than the other... apart from that they're pretty much identical.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Disagree, Vanessa. Marc would destroy Helen, I feel a poll coming on Helen V Marc!!!

Marc is very good at interspersing his heinous behaviour with cheap charm however it's fake. He's probably nastier deep down. Helen is nasty too, but evebn i could see does have a thickly veiled nice side to people she likes (she did care about Ash, Steven, Biannnca ,Tamara last year, whereas Marc doesn't give two s**** about Showbiz unless he agrees with him) Marc will know which buttons to push against Helen, grind her down with drip feed nastiness and Helen will cry like a baby.

I don't buy papers/mags so may have missed it. Have Ash and Helen fallen out? I say this because he slated her on BOTS last week.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by abhorson

I don't buy papers/mags so may have missed it. Have Ash and Helen fallen out? I say this because he slated her on BOTS last week.

I saw that, too and thohght the same initially but I think he likes playing up the my mate Helen is really vile, card as that's her branding. He seems supportive on twitter. I think she's fallen out with Mark, Winston, Jale and Marlon. Weirdly enough she gets on fine with Ashleigh, now.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Livia

Helen and Marc are the same. One has a penis and one doesn't, one's had more surgery than the other... apart from that they're pretty much identical.

They are a two-headed monster but I honestly feel that Helen just looks bored of Marc now.
I bet she can't wait to get out of there & collect her fee.
I would not be the least bit surprised if next week Marc is up for eviction & BB change it to Vote To Save as they know Marc has a better chance of staying then.
Marc has totally overshadowed any normal conversations or tasks for me.
I used to love watching BB but now I find myself just rolling my eyes at them placing such an immature prick in there like Marc.

[alex_front2]

She's definitely not as keen on Marc as she was in the bunker. She was practically begging Harry to let her get involved in composing Nick's poem, how many times did she reiterate she was good at writing poetry? When Harry was being crude "tuna purse", that was a genuine laugh from Helen.

[Jamie89]

How has this turned into a helen thread lol, people are obsessed!

And on the subject of marc, people are taking things way too seriously. He's participating in a gameshow that relies on conflict, he was brought in for that very reason because apparently people didn't like to watch folks getting along. He's being an a**hole sure but so what, he's clearly not bullying anyone, frankly it's offensive to suggest that he is because it weakens the meaning of the word and demeans real bullying victims.
The same old "marc bullying" threads are getting boring now

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by LiamBB

How has this turned into a helen thread lol, people are obsessed!

And on the subject of marc, people are taking things way too seriously. He's participating in a gameshow that relies on conflict, he was brought in for that very reason because apparently people didn't like to watch folks getting along. He's being an a**hole sure but so what, he's clearly not bullying anyone, frankly it's offensive to suggest that he is because it weakens the meaning of the word and demeans real bullying victims.
The same old "marc bullying" threads are getting boring now

I don't think Marc is a bully just a total twat

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LiamBB

How has this turned into a helen thread lol, people are obsessed!

And on the subject of marc, people are taking things way too seriously. He's participating in a gameshow that relies on conflict, he was brought in for that very reason because apparently people didn't like to watch folks getting along. He's being an a**hole sure but so what, he's clearly not bullying anyone, frankly it's offensive to suggest that he is because it weakens the meaning of the word and demeans real bullying victims.
The same old "marc bullying" threads are getting boring now

Because it's related to the subject of the thread